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dominicbeesley

dominicbeesley

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I'm still looking for a pair of 109" front brake back plates (246566,246565). The only places I can see new want upwards of £110 each which is a bit rich and tried Safari Engineering but the bloke didn't seem to want to sell me any other than as a kit for £400!:eek:

I'm pretty sure looking at the parts book and reading elsewhere I should be able to fit 109" fronts and move the existing front cylinders to the back and be fine no need for new servo and M/C as he was insisting!

Anyway, anyone got any going spare or know of any breakers who will have them, I don't mind paying a decent price...

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DO NOT fit front slave cylinders on the rear axle, you will be overbraking the rear wheels on an 88"

try it if you like losing control :eek:

i "upgraded" my front brakes on my 88" by fitting 11" rear backplates/drums to my front axle this gave me a bigger braking surface with no bleeding complications, i also fitted dual line master cylinder and servo, this gave me the ability to almost stand my 88" on the front bumper under heavy braking at speed

this wasn't much of an improvement over my original 10" brakes as i could lift the rear axle with the 10" brakes under heavy braking, as witnessed by my daughter :lol:

the bonus now is my front brake shoes last longer with less frequent need to adjust them

the downside is after wading as i'm certain that they take a fair bit longer for them to dry out
 
You DO put the front cylinders on the back to rebalance _after_ you've put the larger brakes on the front in order to rebalance. Go and look at the parts book - thats just what LR did after 1980. cylinder part 242296/7 move from front to back. (pages 1L02 and 1L04 in parts book). As far as I can tell the same dual cylinder was used before and after...not sure how that will work I guess there will be a lot more pedal movement!

To be honest, the current brakes, when cold, work fine, they lock the wheels up no problem. I am gentle on brakes, in that I use a lot of engine braking. But round here there are a lot of very steep hills and even in 2nd with the engine screaming its whatsits off you need to give it some brake so they do get hot. Also high speed stops on the motorway are not so funny if you have to make a second one soon after the first:eek:
 
dominicbeesley said:
You DO put the front cylinders on the back to rebalance _after_ you've put the larger brakes on the front in order to rebalance. Go and look at the parts book - thats just what LR did after 1980. cylinder part 242296/7 move from front to back. (pages 1L02 and 1L04 in parts book). As far as I can tell the same dual cylinder was used before and after...not sure how that will work I guess there will be a lot more pedal movement!

To be honest, the current brakes, when cold, work fine, they lock the wheels up no problem. I am gentle on brakes, in that I use a lot of engine braking. But round here there are a lot of very steep hills and even in 2nd with the engine screaming its whatsits off you need to give it some brake so they do get hot. Also high speed stops on the motorway are not so funny if you have to make a second one soon after the first:eek:
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i'll not argue with your parts book (i don't have one to reference from) but you'll find you lock the rear wheels extra easily with the bigger bore slaves in there

if it's heat dissipation you need then it's definitely 11" drum time on the front, my 11" rears on the front axle will accomplish that and you'll not need to change anything else as the 11" rears use the same slave as 10" fronts, this means no changing mastercylinder or anything else

the whole swap can be accomplished in no more than 2 hours working slowly and with several cups of tea/cigarettes
 
dominicbeesley said:
... But round here there are a lot of very steep hills and even in 2nd with the engine screaming its whatsits off you need to give it some brake so they do get hot. Also high speed stops on the motorway are not so funny if you have to make a second one soon after the first:eek:
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Heptonstall Road and, Keighley Road aren't that steep! I used to race the busses up them on my pushbike! Mind you, coming down from Blackshaw Head with no brakes is ... interesting!!
 
It seems to be when I come over from ovenden via mixenden and midgley...the other day I missed my turning off Birchcliffe road and had to back up again. You must be bloody quick on a pushbike. I remember the bus driver getting a Leyland Leopard up to 60 going up Heptonstall...
 
The Leopards belonged to the Hebble Bus Company, running from Bradford to Burnley, and they could reach that going round Lee Wood. I only used to race them as far as Cross Lanes, when they turned right and I carried on straight up to the village. The Halifax Passenger Transport used AEC, which turned round just above where the Turner's chippy was by the corner of Church Lane, with Top Lane opposite going on to the prefabs.

I believe that the busses go straight up nowadays.

Long time ago ...

Although I have to admit that Heptonstall is a good place to come from, I can almost hear Dueling Banjos when I go back to visit!

Halifax to Hebden is almost as long as it takes from here to Halifax!
 
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