BMW X5 or Lexus RX300?

What are the pro's and con's of each. Topgear says the Lexus has poor 4x4
ability. We live on a slope and in the snow struggle to negotiate the
incline hence the 'need' for a 4x4! Any excuse eh ?

Are either vehicle capable of this need for 4wd or is one better than the
other ? What about running costs and reliabilty and resale values ?

Thanks for any input here.

Coolasblu

Coolasblu wrote:
> What are the pro's and con's of each. Topgear says the Lexus has poor
> 4x4 ability. We live on a slope and in the snow struggle to negotiate
> the incline hence the 'need' for a 4x4! Any excuse eh ?
>
> Are either vehicle capable of this need for 4wd or is one better than
> the other ? What about running costs and reliabilty and resale values
> ?
>
> Thanks for any input here.
>
> Coolasblu

Or for the same money you could get a beautiful Series II Landie and an MGB.

Alan

Coolasblu wrote:
> What are the pro's and con's of each. Topgear says the Lexus has
poor
> 4x4 ability. We live on a slope and in the snow struggle to
negotiate
> the incline hence the 'need' for a 4x4! Any excuse eh ?
>
> Are either vehicle capable of this need for 4wd or is one better
than
> the other ? What about running costs and reliabilty and resale
values
> ?
>
> Thanks for any input here.
>
> Coolasblu

Either are capable in moderate snow. The Lexus is only available in
petrol form but is likely to be beatifully built and more reliable
than the BMW.
I run an X5 and a Toyota Land Cruiser [distant heavy duty cousin of
the 300] currently and know about the reliability difference ;-)
FWIW the Lexus looks a bit like a girls car while the X5 is often
driven by girls who like to kick ass.

Huw


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Huw schrieb:

> FWIW the Lexus looks a bit like a girls car while the X5 is often
> driven by girls who like to kick ass.

Talkin' of asskicking girls - nothing beats the look of my wife sitting
in my open J4 Toy L/C! ;-)

Toyota (and Lexus) are THE quality reference for BMW. All quality issues
are referenced by the Toys/Lexuses which means, this is the goal BMW
wants to reach.....

Cheers,

Axel

Axel Hammer wrote:
> Huw schrieb:
>
>> FWIW the Lexus looks a bit like a girls car while the X5 is often
>> driven by girls who like to kick ass.
>
> Talkin' of asskicking girls - nothing beats the look of my wife
> sitting in my open J4 Toy L/C! ;-)
>
> Toyota (and Lexus) are THE quality reference for BMW. All quality
> issues are referenced by the Toys/Lexuses which means, this is the
> goal BMW wants to reach.....
>
> Cheers,
>
> Axel

They are way off target so far.

Huw


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Huw schrieb:

> > Toyota (and Lexus) are THE quality reference for BMW. All quality
> > issues are referenced by the Toys/Lexuses which means, this is the
> > goal BMW wants to reach.....
> They are way off target so far.
>
> Huw

I know. Sad but true. This electronic overkill will ruin all of them if
no SW-QA takes place.

Axel

Axel Hammer wrote:
> Huw schrieb:
>
>>> Toyota (and Lexus) are THE quality reference for BMW. All quality
>>> issues are referenced by the Toys/Lexuses which means, this is the
>>> goal BMW wants to reach.....
>> They are way off target so far.
>>
>> Huw
>
> I know. Sad but true. This electronic overkill will ruin all of them
> if no SW-QA takes place.
>
> Axel

AFAICS there is as much electronic stuff and systems on the
Toyota/Lexus product as on most BMW's.
The difference is that one manufacturer makes sure it is reliable
before installing it in tens of thousands of cars.

Huw


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Coolasblu wrote:
> What are the pro's and con's of each. Topgear says the Lexus has poor
> 4x4 ability. We live on a slope and in the snow struggle to negotiate
> the incline hence the 'need' for a 4x4! Any excuse eh ?
>
> Are either vehicle capable of this need for 4wd or is one better than
> the other ? What about running costs and reliabilty and resale values
> ?
>
> Thanks for any input here.
>
> Coolasblu

Or for the same money you could get a beautiful Series II Landie and an MGB.

Alan

Coolasblu wrote:
> What are the pro's and con's of each. Topgear says the Lexus has
poor
> 4x4 ability. We live on a slope and in the snow struggle to
negotiate
> the incline hence the 'need' for a 4x4! Any excuse eh ?
>
> Are either vehicle capable of this need for 4wd or is one better
than
> the other ? What about running costs and reliabilty and resale
values
> ?
>
> Thanks for any input here.
>
> Coolasblu

Either are capable in moderate snow. The Lexus is only available in
petrol form but is likely to be beatifully built and more reliable
than the BMW.
I run an X5 and a Toyota Land Cruiser [distant heavy duty cousin of
the 300] currently and know about the reliability difference ;-)
FWIW the Lexus looks a bit like a girls car while the X5 is often
driven by girls who like to kick ass.

Huw


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Huw schrieb:

> FWIW the Lexus looks a bit like a girls car while the X5 is often
> driven by girls who like to kick ass.

Talkin' of asskicking girls - nothing beats the look of my wife sitting
in my open J4 Toy L/C! ;-)

Toyota (and Lexus) are THE quality reference for BMW. All quality issues
are referenced by the Toys/Lexuses which means, this is the goal BMW
wants to reach.....

Cheers,

Axel

Axel Hammer wrote:
> Huw schrieb:
>
>> FWIW the Lexus looks a bit like a girls car while the X5 is often
>> driven by girls who like to kick ass.
>
> Talkin' of asskicking girls - nothing beats the look of my wife
> sitting in my open J4 Toy L/C! ;-)
>
> Toyota (and Lexus) are THE quality reference for BMW. All quality
> issues are referenced by the Toys/Lexuses which means, this is the
> goal BMW wants to reach.....
>
> Cheers,
>
> Axel

They are way off target so far.

Huw


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Huw schrieb:

> > Toyota (and Lexus) are THE quality reference for BMW. All quality
> > issues are referenced by the Toys/Lexuses which means, this is the
> > goal BMW wants to reach.....
> They are way off target so far.
>
> Huw

I know. Sad but true. This electronic overkill will ruin all of them if
no SW-QA takes place.

Axel

Axel Hammer wrote:
> Huw schrieb:
>
>>> Toyota (and Lexus) are THE quality reference for BMW. All quality
>>> issues are referenced by the Toys/Lexuses which means, this is the
>>> goal BMW wants to reach.....
>> They are way off target so far.
>>
>> Huw
>
> I know. Sad but true. This electronic overkill will ruin all of them
> if no SW-QA takes place.
>
> Axel

AFAICS there is as much electronic stuff and systems on the
Toyota/Lexus product as on most BMW's.
The difference is that one manufacturer makes sure it is reliable
before installing it in tens of thousands of cars.

Huw


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