Biodiesel
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nathan5346
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Andrew McIntyre
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Yus my dear, and I make it too.
GazPook
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I have a 1999 L-Series it runs fine on B100 but in the winter it needs to be a 50/50 mix or it wont start.
10,000 miles ago I converted it myself to run on straight veg oil. I buy used veg oil on Ebay for 40p per litre and filter it which takes a week. If i run out of used oil I go to makro or booker and buy new oil for 95p per litre.
I believe the TD4 isn't a great lover of B100 or veg oil. My opinion is only based from research on vegoil websites.
10,000 miles ago I converted it myself to run on straight veg oil. I buy used veg oil on Ebay for 40p per litre and filter it which takes a week. If i run out of used oil I go to makro or booker and buy new oil for 95p per litre.
I believe the TD4 isn't a great lover of B100 or veg oil. My opinion is only based from research on vegoil websites.
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gjudge
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where did you get kit from to convert it to veg oil and filter kit from to do it your self,
does the bio b100 go straight in tank or do you have seprate tanks for it been looking in to it before but not had much thoughts from using it on freelander now you have it on l-seriers would be nice to know ifs its a worth while opition to go down cheers
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GazPook
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Hi,
BioTuning - Vegetable Oil Diesel Vehicle Conversions Parts, Kits and Information is where i bought most of the parts. I bought fuel & coolant lines from a local motorfactors.
B100 will go straight into your normal tank without any modification but its best to use 50% B100 50% Diesel during winter. The Freelander will run normal & you shouldn't notice any difference in performance. Here is a link to a good website with filling stations all over the uk Biodiesel Outlets in the UK There are places doing it as cheap as 95p per litre but its sold as heating oil the only difference is its classification is the same as red diesel although there is no red dye in it.
The veg oil system heats up the oil before going into the engine. You have to install a switch over valve which selects between your OEM fuel tank & a new fuel tank. You can either use a small 10L or 20L tank in the boot which you use either diesel or B100 to start up. I have put a 95L tank in the boot which I use Veg Oil in & keep the OEM tank for diesel.
Once your Freelander is running at normal temperature i.e. your water temp guage is at 90o which usually takes about 5 mins in the morning, you switch over to veg oil. About 1 miles from the end of your journey you switch back to purge the system with diesel.
If you dont switch back to diesel which ive done a few times its hard to start again if left for a few hours. This also causes something called gumming where the veg oil sticks to the injectors & over time clogs them up. The good thing about the L-Series is that it has the old mechanical injectors which you can get cleaned for about £5 each.
You need to change the engine oil every 5000 which is a 5min job.
If you can get used veg oil from a local chippy for free then you will be running your landy for free. Here's how to filter it. http://www.biotuning.co.uk/downloads/filterguide_v1.pdf
All in my kit cost £350. A worth while investment since im doing over 1000 miles per week with my new job.
It worth noting that since 2007 you are legaly allowed to use upto 2500L of alternative fuel without paying any duty on it. All you must do is log the date and ammount of fuel used. If you exceed 2500 you must register with HMRC & pay duty on everything. Veg oil is classed as a diesel alternative and will therefore attract the same duty as diesel if you use more than 2500 per year.
The message was a little bit longer than expected but i hope it answered your question. Cheers
BioTuning - Vegetable Oil Diesel Vehicle Conversions Parts, Kits and Information is where i bought most of the parts. I bought fuel & coolant lines from a local motorfactors.
B100 will go straight into your normal tank without any modification but its best to use 50% B100 50% Diesel during winter. The Freelander will run normal & you shouldn't notice any difference in performance. Here is a link to a good website with filling stations all over the uk Biodiesel Outlets in the UK There are places doing it as cheap as 95p per litre but its sold as heating oil the only difference is its classification is the same as red diesel although there is no red dye in it.
The veg oil system heats up the oil before going into the engine. You have to install a switch over valve which selects between your OEM fuel tank & a new fuel tank. You can either use a small 10L or 20L tank in the boot which you use either diesel or B100 to start up. I have put a 95L tank in the boot which I use Veg Oil in & keep the OEM tank for diesel.
Once your Freelander is running at normal temperature i.e. your water temp guage is at 90o which usually takes about 5 mins in the morning, you switch over to veg oil. About 1 miles from the end of your journey you switch back to purge the system with diesel.
If you dont switch back to diesel which ive done a few times its hard to start again if left for a few hours. This also causes something called gumming where the veg oil sticks to the injectors & over time clogs them up. The good thing about the L-Series is that it has the old mechanical injectors which you can get cleaned for about £5 each.
You need to change the engine oil every 5000 which is a 5min job.
If you can get used veg oil from a local chippy for free then you will be running your landy for free. Here's how to filter it. http://www.biotuning.co.uk/downloads/filterguide_v1.pdf
All in my kit cost £350. A worth while investment since im doing over 1000 miles per week with my new job.
It worth noting that since 2007 you are legaly allowed to use upto 2500L of alternative fuel without paying any duty on it. All you must do is log the date and ammount of fuel used. If you exceed 2500 you must register with HMRC & pay duty on everything. Veg oil is classed as a diesel alternative and will therefore attract the same duty as diesel if you use more than 2500 per year.
The message was a little bit longer than expected but i hope it answered your question. Cheers
gjudge
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no very helpfull thanks i shall start looking cheers
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manual says "don't do it in a td4"
although quite a few claim to with no ill effects
although quite a few claim to with no ill effects
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the crude oil prices drives up food not bio diesel. The crude prices just put up the veggie oil higher, they are on the market and treated as a fuel.
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I was thinking about what they said on the news about farmers stopping veg manufacturing as rape seed (or what ever farmers manufacture to get biodiesel) gets them more money, due to biodiesel demand. We would need considerably more space to farm, to create food + biodiesel. the worry was farmers moving to bio from food, meaning food supply would drop. We can't feed the world as it.
Un when I ses farmers, I means real tractor boys, un not wanabee tratter boys.
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I can see where nonfarming people are miss led by media. example: table cucumbers a farmer by me farms 2000 acres of cucumbers 2000 of corn and soybeans. with cucembers he can gross 40,000$ a acre corn about700$ acre soybeans 600$ acre sweetcorn in the 4000 acre .
Look at strawberries in california make pr acre and all the vegatables that make more money than a grain oil crop. Or the rolling hills of our mid west for wheat where they only get12-20" inches of rain not enough for veggies
so the farmer use's the land for the best crop they can grow. the most money per acre is only good business.You cannot grow veggies when there is danger of frost, the plants freeze very easily
