Are these MOT failures?

payydg · Dec 15, 2020

So I normally take HMS landy to an old family friend for an MOT. Let’s just say he overlooks minor issues that have been present since I’ve had it. Due to Covid probably going to have to take it to someone local.

These are the following issues I’ve never been able to solve/have ignored.

No rear windscreen wiper - not been present for almost 10yrs.

Brake lines cable tied on the rear axle. The metal clips have rusted to **** unsurprisingly.

Weird earth issue when I put the head lights on full beam one turns off.

likely MOT failures?

Flossie · Dec 15, 2020

Just the last one.

Tenebreaux · Dec 15, 2020

https://www.gov.uk/guidance/mot-ins...ectors-and-electrical-equipment#section-4-1-1

Scooby22 · Dec 15, 2020

https://www.gov.uk/guidance/mot-ins...ivate-passenger-and-light-commercial-vehicles

payydg · Dec 15, 2020

Thanks for the info. I did think the lights would be an issue. Time to get the volt meter out.

owas · Dec 15, 2020

What I did with my brake line was put abit of rubber tubing over the top first before cable tieing.

I don't think I'd want my brake line rubbing on steel

tottot · Dec 15, 2020

Could be just a dead full beam element in the bulb, unlike many modern vehicles where the dip stays on when you switch to main on old landys the dip goes out when you switch to main. Result no light that side.

bluedog333 · Dec 16, 2020

tottot said:
Could be just a dead full beam element in the bulb, unlike many modern vehicles where the dip stays on when you switch to main on old landys the dip goes out when you switch to main. Result no light that side.

I had an interesting one the other night. Cruising along an unlit wooded road, bunged the hibeams on, no lights at all! Very quickly switched back to dipped. Tried it again (why!!??), and full beans worked fine. Only did it once.
It did remind me I needed to make a sacrifice to Lucas, God of Darkness.

doriz · Dec 16, 2020

I thought brake lines had to be properly attached and a cable tie was not the correct method?

tottot · Dec 16, 2020

Mine have been held by cable ties for years since pipes were replace, a turn around the brake pipe before securing around the axle prevents rubbing.

Turboman · Dec 16, 2020

payydg said:
So I normally take HMS landy to an old family friend for an MOT. Let’s just say he overlooks minor issues that have been present since I’ve had it. Due to Covid probably going to have to take it to someone local.

These are the following issues I’ve never been able to solve/have ignored.

No rear windscreen wiper - not been present for almost 10yrs.

Brake lines cable tied on the rear axle. The metal clips have rusted to **** unsurprisingly.

Weird earth issue when I put the head lights on full beam one turns off.

likely MOT failures?

Cable ties, no problem.
Rear wiper, if you can get it going is probably the best. If not, remove it completely.
Headlights will need to be working properly, unless the tester is very negligent.

Turboman · Dec 16, 2020

bluedog333 said:
It did remind me I needed to make a sacrifice to Lucas, God of Darkness.

Yes. And He is very active at this time of year, as we are close to the Shortest Day!

Turboman · Dec 16, 2020

owas said:
What I did with my brake line was put abit of rubber tubing over the top first before cable tieing.

I don't think I'd want my brake line rubbing on steel

That is a good plan. Clear plastic tubing, or the foam tubes that they use for the edges of fridge shelves in transit also work well.
But in practice, provided the brake pipe is held tightly and flat against the axle or chassis, there is never a problem.

owas · Dec 16, 2020

Turboman said:
That is a good plan. Clear plastic tubing, or the foam tubes that they use for the edges of fridge shelves in transit also work well.
But in practice, provided the brake pipe is held tightly and flat against the axle or chassis, there is never a problem.

One of the brake pipes on the jag I'm rebuilding looked really good, until I removed it and where it had slightly been rubbing on the inner wheel arch after someone had done some welding , it was like tin foil , scary

Turboman · Dec 16, 2020

owas said:
One of the brake pipes on the jag I'm rebuilding looked really good, until I removed it and where it had slightly been rubbing on the inner wheel arch after someone had done some welding , it was like tin foil , scary

If it was moving, it wasn't held tightly. Where the brake pipes run across panels, you can get little clips, that poke into a drilled hole, and the brake pipe snaps into them. But along an axle, as with the rear pipe joining the rear brakes on a Defender, cable ties are fine.

Def90man · Dec 16, 2020

My rear axle has had the brake pipes cable tied on for years as well. Been to several different mot testers and none have said anything about them

lynall · Dec 16, 2020

Iirc the pipes were tied to the rear axles from new? some had metal clips and others large ties that the pipes attached to.

As for cable tying, it has to be tight, anyhting less than tight means all them pipes/cables are now held loosely to each other, and are going ti have a serious rubbing each other off party until one of them blows!
Scania trucks are famous for this, the trucks blow themselves off as do the drivers dreaming of their trucks.

Def90man · Dec 16, 2020

lynall said:
Scania trucks are famous for this, the trucks blow themselves off as do the drivers dreaming of their trucks.

Look out! Broke and kurt will be eating Yorkie bars now

lynall · Dec 16, 2020

Def90man said:
Look out! Broke and kurt will be eating Yorkie bars now

I love to slag them off to wind people up, and i used to hate the scanias with a passion and actually took my current job as there were no scanias, then 1 year later 30 scanias turned up! but 5 years on the euro6 dafs have been a total let down, parts spend and reliablilty is horrific, yet the scanias have been good, far from perfect but way way more reliable than the euro6 dafs.
I am told the current generation dafs are meant to be very good.

payydg · Dec 16, 2020

owas said:
What I did with my brake line was put abit of rubber tubing over the top first before cable tieing.

I don't think I'd want my brake line rubbing on steel

Thats a idea mate. Thanks

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