90 and 110 off road...

Chur · Dec 23, 2009

Whats the difference? How big is it?

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Pikey · Dec 23, 2009

FFS have you not heard of google. and the clue is in the vehicles names 90 = 90" 110 = 110" wheelbases.

Chur · Dec 23, 2009

redhand said:
FFS have you not heard of google. and the clue is in the vehicles names 90 = 90" 110 = 110" wheelbases.

FFS read the title.

I meant what are the differences between their abilities.

Chur

Pikey · Dec 23, 2009

Chur said:
FFS read the title.

I meant what are the differences between their abilities.

Chur

90's dont get crossaxled as easily 110's are a bit more stable. due to bigger footprint and 90's have better turning circle

Chur · Dec 23, 2009

Fair enough. Obviously ramp over and departure angle are slightly compromised too. Has anyoned owned both? Is it often a 110 gets stuck whilst a 90 blasts through, or is it only in the competition level stuff it matters?

Medusa · Dec 23, 2009

Are you talk about just offroad ability or in general?

90 - for serious offroading
110 - for more stable road manners and long distance towing and bigger loads

Chur · Dec 23, 2009

Medusa said:
Are you talk about just offroad ability or in general?

90 - for serious offroading
110 - for more stable road manners and long distance towing and bigger loads

Purely in the rough stuff.
I know the 90 is better, just not by how much.

Pikey · Dec 23, 2009

Chur said:
Fair enough. Obviously ramp over and departure angle are slightly compromised too. Has anyoned owned both? Is it often a 110 gets stuck whilst a 90 blasts through, or is it only in the competition level stuff it matters?

Yep I've owned both a 110 N/A and a 90TD and unless you're into extreme offroading there's nothing to choose between the 2 Approach is 51deg on the 90 and 50 on the 110 departure is 26deg on the 110 and 35deg on the 90. breakover is 34deg on the 90 and 28deg for the 110.

Defender90Dave · Dec 23, 2009

the 90 is better but mainly when going around corners and not getting crossaxled but its mainly down to what tyres you are running and how skilled the driver is.
don't forget if you are driving a 110 and are following a 90 off road take a different line from it is as you have got a bigger back end on a 110 and can get stuck on it.

beverage · Dec 23, 2009

I have owned both 90 and 110. Obviously the 90 is better off road (lighter etc) but I have a 110 now and you can have just as much fun. Remember what you lose in off road capability you gain in ability to carry stuff and people. A 110 will go everywhere a 90 will but you may need to deploy the winch or take more shunts etc. Get wheel spacers and wind your stoppers in to improve turning circle.

It really depends what you call 'off road'. If you mean the middle of the sahara then 110 everytime because of the load carrying etc. If you mean a play day at sibbertoft then 90 its far more agile but do not be fooled into thinking you will walk over every 110 there some people that have driven their 110's 1000's of miles across continents and have a little bit of skill and experience.

Basically mate you need to be a bit more specific as to what you wanna do then we can recommend one or the other.

Oddie · Dec 23, 2009

And don't forget sometimes the extra wheelbase is an advantage, you may still have one of the axles on the firm stuff in a 110 where the 90 has them both stuck in the mud!

carpy · Dec 23, 2009

I have a 110 and its pretty modified for off road, I go plenty of places that some 90's and defenders dont, and i have recovered others as well.

Its down to the driver alot of the time, and the setup of the vehicle. I have been stupid and driven into places i shouldnt have, as a result i got stuck.

I have big grizzly claw tyres on my 110, as a result it is very capable.

its really so marginal, and dependant on so many variables that you cant explain it - 90 is more capable purely on angles and greater maneuvreability

beverage · Dec 23, 2009

well said carpy you forgot about th e90 being lighter

hughesy · Dec 23, 2009

Being lighter isn't always an advantage.

ratty · Dec 23, 2009

hughesy said:
Being lighter isn't always an advantage.

Thats true Hughesy. I had worn a/t's on my previous 110 and only got stuck a couple of times due to the weight I carried in the back.

Oddie · Dec 23, 2009

ratty said:
Thats true Hughesy. I had worn a/t's on my previous 110 and only got stuck a couple of times due to the weight I carried in the back.

ffs

ratty · Dec 23, 2009

odenne said:
ffs

That was due to the weight on the nearside. I had both RSM72 and my ballast on that side.

Oddie · Dec 23, 2009

So yer saying there wasn't a ditch there you drove into, it just sunk coz of Rob's weight (shurley yu int saying it's owt to do with yer doris, that would be a brave man on (nearly) christmas eve

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buckshot · Dec 23, 2009

odenne said:
So yer saying there was'nt a ditch there you drove into, it just sunk coz of Rob's weight (shurley yu int saying it's owt to do with yer doris, that would be a brave man on (nearly) christmas eve )

well i would say there was'nt

ratty · Dec 23, 2009

odenne said:
So yer saying there wasn't a ditch there you drove into, it just sunk coz of Rob's weight (shurley yu int saying it's owt to do with yer doris, that would be a brave man on (nearly) christmas eve )

Not eggzackly. What I is saying is that there wasn't a ditch there til the weight of the fat bastids on that side caused my big knobblys to dig one.

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