2016 Euro 6 diesel

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Land Rovers manufactured from early 2016 have to have an emissions system which injects a fluid into the exhaust, to reduce NOx output.
This consists of an 18 litre resevoir of fluid, containing an ammonia based liquid called "Adblue".
It is injected into the exhaust.

Get this....you cannot refill this yourself it has to go into a LR dealer. Although you can do an emergency top up of 2 litres.
Software prevents further topping up without plugging the vehicle in to the computer.

How much fluid is used depends on how the vehicle is driven, but can use the full tank in a couple of months.

There is a dashboard warning of low fluid level and at 500 miles remaining a countdown shows.
If you run out, the engine will keep running but after you stop it will not restart.
"EU regulations" apparantly.

LR dealers refill for free if you have the service package, you just pay for the fluid at around £2.50 a litre.

Best not drive your Discovery Sport to Africa then....
 
lightning said:
Land Rovers manufactured from early 2016 have to have an emissions system which injects a fluid into the exhaust, to reduce NOx output.
This consists of an 18 litre resevoir of fluid, containing an ammonia based liquid called "Adblue".
It is injected into the exhaust.

Get this....you cannot refill this yourself it has to go into a LR dealer. Although you can do an emergency top up of 2 litres.
Software prevents further topping up without plugging the vehicle in to the computer.

How much fluid is used depends on how the vehicle is driven, but can use the full tank in a couple of months.

There is a dashboard warning of low fluid level and at 500 miles remaining a countdown shows.
If you run out, the engine will keep running but after you stop it will not restart.
"EU regulations" apparantly.

LR dealers refill for free if you have the service package, you just pay for the fluid at around £2.50 a litre.

Best not drive your Discovery Sport to Africa then....
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Now that sounds like progress if ever I heard it.
 
The thing that got me was my customer (who just bought a new Disco Sport) was told by the dealer that it could not be refilled without returning it to them.
 
Reading about it online people have been able to refill it themselves.
Apparantly not fitted to the 2.2 litre only the 2.0 litre?
Seems like an act of desperation to get some diesels through Euro 6.
Range seems to be 8-12,000 miles on a full tank of the stuff.
Software could be, erm, altered to reduce use of Adblue.
Turbo petrol engine anybody?
 
Up until a year ago, I was working with the Tognum group (MTU, Mercedes-Benz, Detroit Diesel), and it was the same with all the new products rolling off the production line, from the large intercontinental trucks/lorries, some farm machinery and even on some mining equipment. Suffice to say the whole setup is a needlessly complex system which I remember thinking at the time of introduction would some day complicate the life of a poor trucker out there in the middle of nowhere when it runs out of fluid or when things go wrong. With the Mercedes and Detroit Diesel trucks, for the purposes of safety as they said, on the system detecting that the fluid has run out, engine output is progressively limited till it slows to a tickover with the throttle disabled. It is assumed that at the time, the driver would have safely pulled over out of the way of traffic. Imagine having above scenario playing out for a truck driver in the middle of nowhere in the Australian outback or in Africa, far removed from civilization. Question is, who thought it a good idea of having to disable perfectly good running engines on account of they having run out of AdBlue?
 
All euro6 diesels wil inject urea into their exhausts to drop the nox emissions, it's not a new thing and has been on commercials for over 10 years have a look next time you fill up where the turck pumps are and there are either 10l bottles,of the stuff or a pump next to the diesel.
Car manufactures are telling users it's dangerous liquid so you need to visit the service Center ect ect, special shaped bottles appears to be the common trick.

For me I don't give a monkeys as my Merc C350e turned up last week and that's got spark plugs:):)
 
ifloochies said:
Up until a year ago, I was working with the Tognum group (MTU, Mercedes-Benz, Detroit Diesel), and it was the same with all the new products rolling off the production line, from the large intercontinental trucks/lorries, some farm machinery and even on some mining equipment. Suffice to say the whole setup is a needlessly complex system which I remember thinking at the time of introduction would some day complicate the life of a poor trucker out there in the middle of nowhere when it runs out of fluid or when things go wrong. With the Mercedes and Detroit Diesel trucks, for the purposes of safety as they said, on the system detecting that the fluid has run out, engine output is progressively limited till it slows to a tickover with the throttle disabled. It is assumed that at the time, the driver would have safely pulled over out of the way of traffic. Imagine having above scenario playing out for a truck driver in the middle of nowhere in the Australian outback or in Africa, far removed from civilization. Question is, who thought it a good idea of having to disable perfectly good running engines on account of they having run out of AdBlue?
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Or he could just carry a 10L bottle in an emergency, just remember it's the NOX which is so bad for us!
 
I have read on the discovery forum they are filling the new 2016 ad-blue models themselves and as the filler is right next to the derv cap I cant see why you wouldnt?
The liquid is not dangerous obviously you dont drink it!, it does make your skin twitch as it dries.
What makes me chuckle is the truck is super clean yet the fridge engine on the trailer is proper old dirty crap and can still go into London etc with no issues.
 
We use it in some of Transit fleet at work. It's not hazardous, although I wouldn't recommend drinking too much of it.
On those it just has an extra filler by the diesel filler. They drink it fairly quickly, we struggle to get 2000 miles from a tank of adblue at times.
 
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So if you ran short in the desert, you could wee into the Adblue filler and bob's your uncle....another 500 miles.
 
lightning said:
So if you ran short in the desert, you could wee into the Adblue filler and bob's your uncle....another 500 miles.
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Ad blue (should that be yellow) is quite concerntrated so if you needed an urgent supply in the desert I think the best way forward would be to make your own concerntrate.
If you spent several days drinking your own wee you would get a concerntrated solution but as you would need quite a volume you will probably have to also drink your passengers.

It does concern me that as time moves forward we will find the veg oil/ chip oil brigade hanging around public toilets wanting people to **** in there pot.
 
You can see nig though when brought before the beak for sheep worrying saying he was looking to top up his ad blue tank with sheep wee wee and he had his pants down so they could go at the same time.
 
pete1987RRC said:
It's urea ie concerntrated wee wee,

Feel free to drink as much as you like, keep your phone handy and pre dial 999
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Synthetic urea.

Its taken the best part of ten years for people to get their heads around the truck ad-blue systems especially to iron out all the common faults, parts supersession, at times the factory was running out of parts to keep them all on the road europe wide the problems were so many/repetitive.
As its recent new tech for cars I would avoid for a few years yet.
 
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