IF he has permission to be up there, and if the landowner is happy for the car to have been left up there, then alas its not fly tipping. I'm still not sure whether the OP is a liar, or just naive/stupid but i'm assuming the car is probably still up there!

I'm sure we could drag it out - long enough cable from the bottom of the hill and get it rolling down sideways ;)

Looks like thats just a couple of hundred meters away from where this chap was stuck.

This is a good example of the kind of job where LZIR can really be of assistance... someone who through no fault of their own has got themselves into a situation that would potentially involve a private recovery firm to get out of, and where we can easily help with minimum risk to our own...

Thanks for the stand down - glad she's sorted. I dont think this is necessarily the place to discuss insurance, etc (there's already a perfectly good thread ongoing about the modus operandi of LZIR) but if @Moron doesnt want to offer to help he is under no obligation to do so. However, most...

No problem

You might want to edit your original post then, as the location is pretty obvious from that

Think i've found the pub in question on google maps - see what you mean about tight... but towing around a corner isn't exactly easy either!

If no one is able to get there sooner I am happy to help but wont be until gone 11pm tonight unfortunately as i've got a meeting in Bath until at least 10 and i'm an hours drive away. Surely there must be someone in the village with a 4x4 who the landlord knows? From the description i'm...

Looking at the website they dont seem to be very good at keeping it up to date - i guess it must be tricky for a council with one of the largest networks of byways in the country, but presumably they must keep a log somewhere, and you'd think that would automatically update to the website...

Wiltshire council's website is currently showing very few TROs Maybe it's not up to date... but from Swindon there's loads of byways south of Wootton Bassett heading towards Beckhampton (i.e. keeping West of the Ridgeway area). They seem to range from gravel farm tracks to muddy slogs across...

Alas no... the carpets were being used to stop weed growth on the vegetable plots, so we pulled them up and put them down by the field entrance to allow us to get the almera in without it also getting bogged down, plus some bits in front of the volvo to get it some grip once we had pulled it...

Clearly the fact that I can, and do, drive at the speed limit when it is safe to do so rather than crawling around at a snails pace bothers you. I would love to own a 300tdi or 200tdi defender, or even maybe a series, to use off road - its on the wish list when finances hopefully, at some...

If the request that had come in had actually said "I'm off piste in an unsuitable uninsured vehicle up a mountain in Wales in the middle of december" then there wouldnt have been any problems ;)

To be honest - the D3 is a pretty capable off road vehicle... as much as it may look like a chelsea tractor. Arguably needs less skill to drive it well off road as so much is done automatically (diff locks, traction control, etc). If i could afford a defender for the "fun stuff" then i'd have...

My point though is that the record is there for the lawyers and insurance companies. It doesnt make the job any safer. The cones - there's always half a dozen lying around the car park. Took 10 seconds to move them. In all honesty if we'd written something down it would have been pretty hard to...

Maybe we could all just be adults and recognise the limitations of a) our own abilities and b) the abilities of our vehicles. A D3 on ATs without a winch may be less well equipped for recovery than a 90 truck cab on mud tyres with a winch, ground anchor, etc... but the 90 truck cab might...

I agree I dont think there needs to be any huge change as to "how" or "when" we respond (other than maybe some recommendations to work in pairs, to prioritise people over vehicles, and a reminder to responders that there's no shame in admitting they cant effect a recovery) What would perhaps...

I think the get out is simpler than that. People are welcome to respond, to help if they feel willing and able, and to walk away if they dont.

Your system seems to suggest reams of paperwork and form filling. Maybe i've misunderstood you. "Permits to dig" as opposed to just throwing 4 cones that happened to be in the car park over the bits that we didnt want anyone digging in. No idea how long one of these permits takes to write out...