TCubed

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Hi Chaps,

I managed to find the original spec list for the P38 (not sure how I wandered onto that part of the interweb) and it gives the alternator as 150A.

Now.. What is the diesel model of the car doing just after start-up to be using that much current so as to drain the battery on short trips??? I'd understand petrol with the spark, but I don't get diesel.

Just something of interest haha
 
It takes a horrendous amount of power to start an engine.....think of the Cold Cranking Amps the battery can deliver....hundreds of Amps.....The Alternator has to top the battery back up again....short trips will kill a battery that is getting on a bit, and whilst without any other electrical services running, the Diesel still requires Battery to run the ECUs, Pumps etc.....still a good fe wamps worth + what it needs to do to recharge the battery....

The Alternator does far more work than people grant it for.
 
Hi Chaps,

I managed to find the original spec list for the P38 (not sure how I wandered onto that part of the interweb) and it gives the alternator as 150A.

Now.. What is the diesel model of the car doing just after start-up to be using that much current so as to drain the battery on short trips??? I'd understand petrol with the spark, but I don't get diesel.

Just something of interest haha

150 AMP only fitted to 4.6 after 1999 as far as i know. Either the batteries knackered or the alternator.
 
When a car is running all the power to work stuff comes from the alternator, 2 blower motors for the heating system, 2 cooling fans on the rads up front, 2 heated screens, 2 heated seats, ABS pumps EAS compressor, headlights, all the various ecus, and its got to recharge the battery as well. 150 amp just about covers it. Diesels take some battery power to start, first you hit the battery with the glow plugs then actually cranking the engine, which it has to at a reasonable speed to get it going.
Short trips at this time of year with lights and heating on and its no wonder the battery dies
 
I thought the alternators got bigger depending on the spec of the car.

from 100A to 120A and then 150A for the Thor.

Mine is an 4.6HSE and should have the 120A to power the heated seats and screen etc.

It's only got a 100A one in at the moment. Lets hope it does't get too cold this winter!
 
It takes a horrendous amount of power to start an engine.....think of the Cold Cranking Amps the battery can deliver....hundreds of Amps.....The Alternator has to top the battery back up again....short trips will kill a battery that is getting on a bit, and whilst without any other electrical services running, the Diesel still requires Battery to run the ECUs, Pumps etc.....still a good fe wamps worth + what it needs to do to recharge the battery....

The Alternator does far more work than people grant it for.

Ah fair enough, I didn't think of the starting drain haha
 
When a car is running all the power to work stuff comes from the alternator, 2 blower motors for the heating system, 2 cooling fans on the rads up front, 2 heated screens, 2 heated seats, ABS pumps EAS compressor, headlights, all the various ecus, and its got to recharge the battery as well. 150 amp just about covers it. Diesels take some battery power to start, first you hit the battery with the glow plugs then actually cranking the engine, which it has to at a reasonable speed to get it going.
Short trips at this time of year with lights and heating on and its no wonder the battery dies

That is why the doozels have a much larger battery. :)
 
I was told it takes about 15 minutes to top up a battery after a cold start. If your trip is shorter than that, consider walking. If you vehicle doesn't get up to temp during your trip, definitely walk instead.
 

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