What was the last "proper" Landy

  • 1: Early Series IIA - last with lights in the middle

    Votes: 1 1.1%
  • 2: Late Series IIA - last with an all metal dash and "proper" windscreen hinges

    Votes: 6 6.4%
  • 3: Series III - last leafer

    Votes: 10 10.6%
  • 4: Defender 200TDI - before electrickery in the engine

    Votes: 37 39.4%
  • 5: Defender TD5 - still had vent flaps

    Votes: 14 14.9%
  • 6: Defender Puma - still got the looks

    Votes: 17 18.1%
  • 7: As long as it's got a green oval it's a "proper" Landy!

    Votes: 9 9.6%

  • Total voters
    94
It's not the nostalgia. The lines on this get blurred around the time LR introduced the Defender. Prior to that it was unequivocal what"Land Rover" meant. They weren't sold as "Series", just Land Rovers. So, by definition to me the last proper landy was the Series 3. A RR, Disco & Freelander are inherantly not "Land Rovers", they are just badged with a different brand name. Is a Defender a Landy? Mmmmm. Different body, chassis, engine, drive train and fittings. A Defender to me is derivative of a Series landy for these reasons. The last real landy for me are the Series 3.
 
it's not the nostalgia. The lines on this get blurred around the time lr introduced the defender. Prior to that it was unequivocal what"land rover" meant. They weren't sold as "series", just land rovers. So, by definition to me the last proper landy was the series 3. A rr, disco & freelander are inherantly not "land rovers", they are just badged with a different brand name. Is a defender a landy? Mmmmm. Different body, chassis, engine, drive train and fittings. A defender to me is derivative of a series landy for these reasons. The last real landy for me are the series 3.

90/110?
 
Any reason? Or just nostalgia ain't what it used to be? Technology marches on and all that...
It seems to me a proper landy has beam axles. Independent suspension on the newer models seems to have achieved nothing but a higher failure rate of the various bushes.
Technology does indeed march on, but it's not always better, for instance Ford seem the have developed an hydraulic clutch mechanism on the Focus that causes the clutch to fail at around 6,000 miles:rolleyes:
 
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Semantics aside, ;) 90/One-Ten were the last non-model named landy, which was what johns seemed to be saying.

I an way I agree and I suggested as much earlier in the fred :)
sorry turbo I can't help myself.. blame James Taylor and his history books I obsessed over as an uber-keen LR nut.. before a dinosaur ate them..
 
sorry turbo I can't help myself.. blame James Taylor and his history books I obsessed over as an uber-keen LR nut.. before a dinosaur ate them..

No worries! :D

And your statement is well founded, in the original owners book for my vehicle it does say Ninety:One-Ten on the title page. On the bonnet of the early models it is badged Land Rover Ninety, but on the late ones like mine it has a little plate with the number 90.

I never pay any attention to that sort of stuff, I just drive the things, and work on when there is an issue. Remember the dinosaur though, it was tasty on the barbie! ;):D
 
Re: III vs: 2A:

Too much plastic, and a markedly inferior build quality. When they went to the more modern design with the binnacle in front of the driver thematerials used were not well suited to longevity. I don;t know how many of those stupid binnacles I've had to plastic weld for people.

This extended to the chassis and such as well - thinner metal and more prone to rot out.

All in my opinion, of course, but i do infinitely prefer the IIA to the III.
The binnacles have been fine in all the S3's we've had. But preferring the minor differences of a 2a to a 3 isn't enough to claim the 3 isn't a proper Landy. They are 99.5% the same.
 
A proper Landy does not have independent suspension.:)

Why not?

Vehicles just as capable as older Land Rovers did.

Austin_Gipsy.jpg
 
It's not the nostalgia. The lines on this get blurred around the time LR introduced the Defender. Prior to that it was unequivocal what"Land Rover" meant. They weren't sold as "Series", just Land Rovers. So, by definition to me the last proper landy was the Series 3. A RR, Disco & Freelander are inherantly not "Land Rovers", they are just badged with a different brand name. Is a Defender a Landy? Mmmmm. Different body, chassis, engine, drive train and fittings. A Defender to me is derivative of a Series landy for these reasons. The last real landy for me are the Series 3.

What a complete load of nonsense.

You do realise that the Ninety and One Ten where not called Defender, they where just "Land Rovers" at introduction.

And the Range Rover did indeed carry the Land Rover badge.
 
Why not?

Vehicles just as capable as older Land Rovers did.

Austin_Gipsy.jpg

I never said a 4 x 4 with independent suspension could not do what a Land rover does, indeed my Pajero went places where I'd never dream of going in a P38.
Austin Champ 4 litre RR engine?
 

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