Ah right ...sore point thenhe bought one of them bad ones you hear about
Freelaner
Landy Driver
gemsdad
NOT BOTHERED.
altered for the sake of accuracy.
mhm,just because yours was crap,does not mean all are.
Hippo
Lord Hippo
+1mhm,just because yours was crap,does not mean all are.
gemsdad
NOT BOTHERED.
thought it was mine!
New Member
mine has had a damn good soaking,the doors are still on it.
so yours is the dukes of hazard then weld doors climb threw windows sort of gaylander
mhm you are so clever
gemsdad
NOT BOTHERED.
so yours is the dukes of hazard then weld doors climb threw windows sort of gaylander
nope,they work as they were intended to,no problems whatsoever with it.nice heated leather seats,sat nav,fantastic heater.starts first time everytime.no leaks from the sunroof or the door seals.
Spacemonkey...
Well-Known Member
Hmmm... 159? Last year or the year before I heard that Alfa topped VW on reliability scores. Now I know VW sell a heck of a lot more, so numerically more chance of failure, but they got on the quality thing before the 159 was launched by poaching the chap from BMW in charge of M division and his first task was to sort reliability and the 159 scores very highly in this regard. I was going to get a Sportwagon instead of the Freelander but fate decided otherwise.
PlattyR56
New Member
I've got one tucked up in the garage. Fun little toy car for summer weekends.
mhm,just because yours was crap,does not mean all are.
I find that comment, coming from you, astounding!
I am well aware that "one swallow, a spring doth not make". However my decision is not based purely on mine. I believe, as mentioned previously, that it is not the individual car, and yes you can get lucky, but the inherent design which is flawed. This has been exacerbated by poor build quality to make a bad vehicle.
These failings can, to a certain extent, be reduced, by constant vigilance, but care and a good maintenance schedule will not eliminate all potential catastrophes!
If you are prepared to pamper it like a prima Donna; check all fluids every time you go out in it, check the drive train monthly and are prepared to do some fairly major work on it yourself, or have deep pockets, then it is ok; but you must go into Freelander ownership with your eyes open.
You have seen the number of noobs come on here, tearing their hair out.
I, for one, want a reliable daily drive that I can jump into and drive, without having an apoplectic fit every time I hear a new squeak or noise.
I am also not talking about general wear and tear. Normal wear and tear does not include subframe mounts ripping out. The weakest point in the dive chain destroying the rest of said drive train. A sensitive and temperamental cooling system which measure coolant temperature after it's been cooled! Those are all basic design faults.
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PlattyR56
New Member
So....what are you doing on a Land Rover forum?
If you own a Gaylander one could ask the same thing
.Because I have 2 discoveries. Both are weekend toys. One is in the process of a full ground up rebuild - see my avatar.
I expect them to fail regularly. They are not used as daily drives. They are used and abused. I am not talking of failure due to abuse, I am talking about inherent design flaws.
PlattyR56
New Member
If you own a Gaylander one could ask the same thing
Touché
Mine will be a daily, I'll let you know how I get on. I quite like getting greasy, it keeps me out of trouble...The Devil makes work for idle hands!
That's fine. At least yu are going in to it eyes wide open .
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IndiTd4
Well-Known Member
I find that comment, coming from you, astounding!
I am well aware that "one swallow, a spring doth not make". However my decision is not based purely on mine. I believe, as mentioned previously, that it is not the individual car, and yes you can get lucky, but the inherent design which is flawed. This has been exacerbated by poor build quality to make a bad vehicle.
These failings can, to a certain extent, be reduced, by constant vigilance, but care and a good maintenance schedule will not eliminate all potential catastrophes!
If you are prepared to pamper it like a prima Donna; check all fluids every time you go out in it, check the drive train monthly and are prepared to do some fairly major work on it yourself, or have deep pockets, then it is ok; but you must go into Freelander ownership with your eyes open.
You have seen the number of noobs come on here, tearing their hair out.
I, for one, want a reliable daily drive that I can jump into and drive, without having an apoplectic fit every time I hear a new squeak or noise.
So what are you saying??
LOL,,Its true of so many manufacturers these days, quantity not quality is the main focus, we are all now at the point with Most Freelander 1's where the lack of build quality and poor looking after by previous owners are now rearing there heads, I do think that compared with many cars people are expecting too much from a Freelander if they expect it to be a silent smooth ride, they do creek and rattle and groan from time to time, so would you if you were built by Land Rover in the late 90's early 2000's..
As you say "Eyes wide open"...for anything built since about 1995..
all modern things built by accountants, not by people with a passion for perfection..as they were in the olden days..
