stuu
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Jag v8 i would think as it being part of the first face-lifts selling points.
Jag v8 i would think as it being part of the first face-lifts selling points.
Henry_b
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It does yes
Enthusiastman
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Seen it mate. No thanks. Its a right dog.
brianp38dse
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Those l322 are getting very cheap, i was flicking through face ach last night and they are down to just over a grand
Enthusiastman
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They are full of trouble mate and best avoided unless of course you know the car etc and then it might be worth having but for that sort of money i would say its had its day TBH.Those l322 are getting very cheap, i was flicking through face ach last night and they are down to just over a grand
Has anyone on here been to that dealer in Wokingham/Reading area who advertises on ebay with loads of P38's for sale??? Dave is his name. I have had a few nice polite emails with him and he seems a honest and decent enough chap just selling run of the mill P38's at fair prices. I did find out off him that he also supplies P38's to other chaps on ebay who buy off him, tart em up and then sell em on for more.
I might take a drive down and see what he has to offer.
brianp38dse
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I have no intention of buying one, i like the p38, i could probably do most things on an L322 if i had to but i will stick with mine for as long as i can as it does everything i want it to do and dont get big bills to fix it
i have not seen the guy reading way as dont really look.
gold rover
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Those l322 are getting very cheap, i was flicking through face ach last night and they are down to just over a grand
They are cheap but at £1k , that's too cheap. Like anything else the cheaper they are the more problems they'll have. I wouldn't dream of selling the Golden Girl for that type of money. The way I look at mine is : I couldn't buy one as good for what they are selling for.
Everyone derides the L322 , and yes they do have their issues, but so do £90k brand new Range Rovers.
If we go all nostalgic , the Classic suffered with body roll when it first came out and they had to lower the body and put in anti-roll bars. So 1st generation had issues. I'm sure there were probably other issues that I haven't read about. They are now old and this forum reflects that and makes allowances for an old vehicle to have issues.
The P38 when reviewed was the best in it's class but just an updated version of the Classic. Nothing to write home about and with the exception of air suspension and possibly stereo system, very little new to learn how to fix ( I'm sure someone will tell us just how much was different but it doesn't seem like a lot when you try researching). When BMW took over and wanted to make it a game changer , it couldn't handle the tweaks. So it got a facelift. Due to this the L322 production jumped the queue. The P38 is also old and keeps these pages going with issues that owners have.
Then we have the much maligned L322. Now I can speak with experience, rather than book knowledge. As I have had the same one for almost 11 years. Yes they have issues. I have had several of the biggies*. However, the biggest problems I have found were from it being the first of it's kind. Loaded with all types of wizardry. This resulted in independent garages not having a clue, and Land Rover dealers being unwilling to work on any vehicle over 3yrs old. So those, like myself, who took them on around the point that issues were showing had to learn on the hoof. @Saint.V8 is a god amongst men because of his knowledge of the L322. Without him ,many, including myself would have given up long ago. Much of the knowledge my little indy had, when working on mine, came from Ant. The L322 is different from any that came before, and that made it's issues stand out more. Oh and it's old. My L322 will be 19 next month, I expect issues on any 19yr old vehicle, let alone one with the first version of serious electrickery for the brand.
If the Classic or the P38 had electrics as complex as the L322, or been owned by a company that was putting bits from different vehicles into it, they would have had just as many issues. However, they are simpler vehicles. It is like comparing a watch that has a dial and two hands, to my Suunto 7.
I will now step off my soapbox
*the two major issues I have had with my L322 lands firmly at the feet of incompetent mechanics, whose egos were greater than their abilities.
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brianp38dse
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They are cheap but at £1k , that's too cheap. Like anything else the cheaper they are the more problems they'll have. I wouldn't dream of selling the Golden Girl for that type of money. The way I look at mine is : I couldn't buy one as good for what they are selling for.
Everyone derides the L322 , and yes they do have their issues, but so do £90k brand new Range Rovers.
If we go all nostalgic , the Classic suffered with body roll when it first came out and they had to lower the body and put in anti-roll bars. So 1st generation had issues. I'm sure there were probably other issues that I haven't read about. They are now old and this forum reflects that and makes allowances for an old vehicle to have issues.
The P38 when reviewed was the best in it's class but just an updated version of the Classic. Nothing to write home about and with the exception of air suspension and possibly stereo system, very little new to learn how to fix ( I'm sure someone will tell us just how much was different but it doesn't seem like a lot when you try researching). When BMW took over and wanted to make it a game changer , it couldn't handle the tweaks. So it got a facelift. Due to this the L322 production jumped the queue. The P38 is also old and keeps these pages going with issues that owners have.
The we have the much maligned L322. Now I can speak with experience, rather than book knowledge. As I have had the same one for almost 11 years. Yes they have issues. I have had several of the biggies*. However, the biggest problems I have found were from it being the first of it's kind. Loaded with all typea of wizardry. This resulted in independent garages not having a clue, and Land Rover dealers being unwilling yo work on any vehicle over 3yrs old. So those, like myself, who took them on around the point that issues were showing had to learn on the hoof. @Saint.V8 is a god amongst men because of his knowledge of the L322. Without him ,many, including myself would have given up long ago. Much of the knowledge my little indy had, when working on mine, came from Ant. The L322 is different from any that came before, and that made it's issues stand out more. Oh and it's old. My L322 will be 19 next month, I expect issues on any 19yr old vehicle, let alone one with the first version of serious electrickery for the brand.
If the Classic or the P38 had electrics as complex as the L322, or been owned by a company that was putting bits from different vehicles into it, they would have had just as many issues. However, they are simpler vehicles. It is like comparing a watch that has a dial and two hands, to my Suunto 7.
I will now step off my soapbox
*the two major issues I have had with my L322 lands firmly at the feet of incompetent mechanics, whose egos were greater than their abilities.
Like most cars as they get old they need looking after and if done will last you well, but as we know there are a lot out there that have not been loved just used as a look what i drive motor and neglected, its the unknown till you start using a new car as to how well it has been loved.
if i had to change i would be looking for one like yours that is loved and maintained properly
Its a shame we dont see much of Saintv8 on here now as he is the master of the l322 and does not mind getting stuck in with the gritty stuff.
RangeRoller dt
Well-Sprung Member
Worth a look over.
2.2k bit steep for me but seems genuine and has some nice kit in it. Ticks a lot of boxes. I’d want few hundred off just for being red lol
New battery today as the old one was goosed due to its lifestyle (that's in another post) All good reset the windows and sunroof and then toured around the city to the never ending shops the long haired colonel insisted were a must. Even the key fob worked close up as my RF lead has been disconnected for about 8 years. All good and it could have been worse, arrived home for the fob to lock and the beast immediately unlock so put the key in the door as usual and nothing no resistance.
Last year I had to replace the door lock assembly so guessed what it was and took off the door card and anyone who has done that will know to see inside to the lock assembly and the leavers to the key lock and door handle are near on impossible to see let alone get an adult hand into (luckily I don't have shovels for hands) Sussed it was the little upside down L shaped rod that pierces the hole in the bar and should have a small retaining washer on the back. Guessing I fooked that up when I fitted it last year but to my recall it was minus 12 when i was trying to do it. Great what a small piece of tape will do, that should hold it or I hope but then again it's only for a few more weeks again as the calendar is counting down until work beckons.
Even with all these small issues I still look forward to coming home and driving this vehicle. It's 20 years old but i love it.
Last year I had to replace the door lock assembly so guessed what it was and took off the door card and anyone who has done that will know to see inside to the lock assembly and the leavers to the key lock and door handle are near on impossible to see let alone get an adult hand into (luckily I don't have shovels for hands) Sussed it was the little upside down L shaped rod that pierces the hole in the bar and should have a small retaining washer on the back. Guessing I fooked that up when I fitted it last year but to my recall it was minus 12 when i was trying to do it. Great what a small piece of tape will do, that should hold it or I hope but then again it's only for a few more weeks again as the calendar is counting down until work beckons.
Even with all these small issues I still look forward to coming home and driving this vehicle. It's 20 years old but i love it.
Enthusiastman
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Wise move buddy and i too think the same way. Besides all there faults i still love the P38 shape so will continue my search for as nice as one as i can find and meets my standards i am looking for.I have no intention of buying one, i like the p38, i could probably do most things on an L322 if i had to but i will stick with mine for as long as i can as it does everything i want it to do and dont get big bills to fix it
i have not seen the guy reading way as dont really look.
Enthusiastman
Well-Known Member
Wise words buddy and yours must be a good one if you have had it for 11 years so fair play to you for sticking with her for soo long. Long may it continue.They are cheap but at £1k , that's too cheap. Like anything else the cheaper they are the more problems they'll have. I wouldn't dream of selling the Golden Girl for that type of money. The way I look at mine is : I couldn't buy one as good for what they are selling for.
Everyone derides the L322 , and yes they do have their issues, but so do £90k brand new Range Rovers.
If we go all nostalgic , the Classic suffered with body roll when it first came out and they had to lower the body and put in anti-roll bars. So 1st generation had issues. I'm sure there were probably other issues that I haven't read about. They are now old and this forum reflects that and makes allowances for an old vehicle to have issues.
The P38 when reviewed was the best in it's class but just an updated version of the Classic. Nothing to write home about and with the exception of air suspension and possibly stereo system, very little new to learn how to fix ( I'm sure someone will tell us just how much was different but it doesn't seem like a lot when you try researching). When BMW took over and wanted to make it a game changer , it couldn't handle the tweaks. So it got a facelift. Due to this the L322 production jumped the queue. The P38 is also old and keeps these pages going with issues that owners have.
Then we have the much maligned L322. Now I can speak with experience, rather than book knowledge. As I have had the same one for almost 11 years. Yes they have issues. I have had several of the biggies*. However, the biggest problems I have found were from it being the first of it's kind. Loaded with all types of wizardry. This resulted in independent garages not having a clue, and Land Rover dealers being unwilling to work on any vehicle over 3yrs old. So those, like myself, who took them on around the point that issues were showing had to learn on the hoof. @Saint.V8 is a god amongst men because of his knowledge of the L322. Without him ,many, including myself would have given up long ago. Much of the knowledge my little indy had, when working on mine, came from Ant. The L322 is different from any that came before, and that made it's issues stand out more. Oh and it's old. My L322 will be 19 next month, I expect issues on any 19yr old vehicle, let alone one with the first version of serious electrickery for the brand.
If the Classic or the P38 had electrics as complex as the L322, or been owned by a company that was putting bits from different vehicles into it, they would have had just as many issues. However, they are simpler vehicles. It is like comparing a watch that has a dial and two hands, to my Suunto 7.
I will now step off my soapbox
*the two major issues I have had with my L322 lands firmly at the feet of incompetent mechanics, whose egos were greater than their abilities.
Enthusiastman
Well-Known Member
I am thinking about going to look at it seeing as its in my home town albeit after what i have been and seen today maybe i wont bother. I knew quite a bit already about P38's and there troubles etc and what to look for but what i have seen today has really opened up my eyes. Shocking it was and laughable at the same time regarding asking prices. I have heard the term " you can polish a turd " or " put lipstick on it " many times and today has firmly justified those sayings. We needed to get out for a few hours and give our brand new car a run so all was not lost. LOL.
One very positive thing out of today was there was a chap at one of the P38 dealer sites fitting new roof lining panels on P38's. NOT FROM NATIONWIDE TRIM.
He was a really nice chap and his price for a new headliner was excellent and he travels all over the country for a small fuel fee on top of the price of the new headliner which was a mere £260 all in which i thought was brilliant price. I saw 2 cars he had already done today and he was doing a ladies P38 as she waited with her hubby and the quality IMHOP was faultless. I took a flier leaflet off him for future ref:
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Henry_b
Think outside, no box required.
tomcat59alan
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The Martrim headlining kit used to be around £70 delivered. An easy afternoon to pull it out and recover it.
Those l322 are getting very cheap, i was flicking through face ach last night and they are down to just over a grand
Yes. The thing that puts me off more tgan anything is the price of parts. They really are ridiculous. Also, I don't think they're as solid as the P38.
Enthusiastman
Well-Known Member
Agreed if your brave enough to want to do it yourself. The chap i saw today has about 5 full kits on his van at anyone time he said as he is very busy trotting around the uk doing them for folk. He takes all the old ones away with him and refurbs them in his workshop hence he always has a stock to hand.
Not a job i would like to do to be fair buddy.
