Cavey_P38 · Mar 4, 2021

lynall said:
That first pic is some sort of estate car so defo overweight, second one is a Mercedes Ml late 90s early 2000s which according to google has a tow capacity of 5000lbs ie 2.5 ton/ne ish!

reckon the trailer must be 750kg
be interesting to see the eight plate on the trailer

plus 2 cars

.. i wouldn't want to be stood with plod on side of road with that discussion..

Been there done that... got away once got done once..

Hicap phill · Mar 4, 2021

v8250 said:
here's three, Phil https://www.carandclassic.co.uk/list/77/mini/

And they they appear out the wood work

Hicap phill · Mar 4, 2021

Cavey_P38 said:
reckon the trailer must be 750kg
be interesting to see the eight plate on the trailer

plus 2 cars

.. i wouldn't want to be stood with plod on side of road with that discussion..

Been there done that... got away once got done once..

I was pulled a few times by vosa onto weighbridge as I used to have a large trailer & 2 80” trials landrovers on them.
Pity I used a weighbridge once fully loaded with fuel,water etc before I left. I would let them go through the motions then show a ticket.

as for farm sales.... no matter how much they fit on a trailer they don’t have enough straps to keep it safe for the 30miles drive home

My Old Landy · Mar 4, 2021

Hicap phill said:
I was pulled a few times by vosa onto weighbridge as I used to have a large trailer & 2 80” trials landrovers on them.
Pity I used a weighbridge once fully loaded with fuel,water etc before I left. I would let them go through the motions then show a ticket.

I would do the same

we are bad to the bone lol

mick the builder · Mar 4, 2021

Cavey_P38 said:
reckon he must be close or over his weight with the two cars on it.

And nose wheel weight...well..

I have seen worse at Farm Sales ..... but man that is someone else's kit, i am with @mick the builder, wouldn't use him..

This guy regularly travels to Hungary and back.

Shippers · Mar 4, 2021

mick the builder said:
This guy regularly travels to Hungary and back.

Wonder how he´s getting on with the paperwork now!....

mick the builder · Mar 4, 2021

I tried to find the photo he put up with his jeep towing that trailer 2 cars and motorcycles with an a frame towing another car.

mick the builder · Mar 4, 2021

Couple more for fun.

Hicap phill · Mar 4, 2021

mick the builder said:
Couple more for fun.
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As long as that 1st trailer is below 27ft it’s ok..(polish love these trailers normally oversized for use in the uk unless behind a commercial vehicle)

2pix looks normal to me. More than 7.5t more like 13t MAM

mick the builder · Mar 4, 2021

Hicap phill said:
As long as that 1st trailer is below 27ft it’s ok..(polish love these trailers normally oversized for use in the uk unless behind a commercial vehicle)

2pix looks normal to me. More than 7.5t more like 13t MAM

First pic just doesn't look right, although it might be.

Cavey_P38 · Mar 4, 2021

Hicap phill said:
I was pulled a few times by vosa onto weighbridge as I used to have a large trailer & 2 80” trials landrovers on them.
Pity I used a weighbridge once fully loaded with fuel,water etc before I left. I would let them go through the motions then show a ticket.

as for farm sales.... no matter how much they fit on a trailer they don’t have enough straps to keep it safe for the 30miles drive home

Straps are overrated...

we once loaded a corn trailer using a telehandler which couldn't lift it only push it up the ramps onto a tri axle ivor williams trailer with drawbar at the back, car and front of trailer were like a big V.. they were going to Exeter from us 200miles... i would not have gone 20. made his wife drive thought that was top work

or the bloke who casually hooked a 30ft 4 wheel flat bed farm trailer onto his pickup truck using the ring of teh drawbar and set off unbraked for 50mile journey..

it is all fine till Plod see you or the accident occours

Shippers · Mar 4, 2021

Back when i lived in Scotland was overtaken by a Transit towing a travellers caravan one of the big long ones Tabart I think theyre called...didnt make the corner jacknifed and hit a tree caravan ended up in the back of the Transit...couldnt believe my eyes when around 10 got out of the Transit and 15 from the caravan..they were all bloody lucky that all were OK apart from hobbling around rubbing knees and elbows...tin of sardines springs to mind now I live in Portugal...lol

mick the builder · Mar 5, 2021

Cavey_P38 said:
Straps are overrated...

we once loaded a corn trailer using a telehandler which couldn't lift it only push it up the ramps onto a tri axle ivor williams trailer with drawbar at the back, car and front of trailer were like a big V.. they were going to Exeter from us 200miles... i would not have gone 20. made his wife drive thought that was top work

or the bloke who casually hooked a 30ft 4 wheel flat bed farm trailer onto his pickup truck using the ring of teh drawbar and set off unbraked for 50mile journey..

it is all fine till Plod see you or the accident occours

I've seen Farm trailers and double floor cattle trailers towed by 4x4s many times over here.

mick the builder · Mar 5, 2021

Shippers said:
Back when i lived in Scotland was overtaken by a Transit towing a travellers caravan one of the big long ones Tabart I think theyre called...didnt make the corner jacknifed and hit a tree caravan ended up in the back of the Transit...couldnt believe my eyes when around 10 got out of the Transit and 15 from the caravan..they were all bloody lucky that all were OK apart from hobbling around rubbing knees and elbows...tin of sardines springs to mind now I live in Portugal...lol

Made of strong stuff those knackers.

discomania · Mar 5, 2021

mick the builder said:
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A couple of the lesser loads.

That ML with the trailer and 2 cars MUST be above max train weight for the ML!

lynall · Mar 5, 2021

discomania said:
That ML with the trailer and 2 cars MUST be above max train weight for the ML!

I did post earleir on, max two weight for older ML is 2.5 ton.

goonarmy · Mar 5, 2021

mick the builder said:
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A couple of the lesser loads.

Aren't they both the ML?
AND isn't that a removable tow bar? Don't they have reduced limits?

Cavey_P38 said:
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here you go @v8250 40k insurrance claim for the cars, we didn't claim for the damage to the trailer, plod spent 30 mins looking round it before i told him it was 6 weeks old. Trailer bent step only damage we had. No skid marks in any area either.

It was a very odd thing to watch in the mirror i can tell you as it went over

what are old bill doing with tools in their hands?

mick the builder · Mar 5, 2021

discomania said:
That ML with the trailer and 2 cars MUST be above max train weight for the ML!

If you zoom in, it looks like a spare engine on the nose of the trailer?

Shippers · Mar 5, 2021

mick the builder said:
If you zoom in, it looks like a spare engine on the nose of the trailer?

I thought that as well...wouldnt let that bloke load a shopping trolly and deliver it to my car in the carpark....

Cavey_P38 · Mar 6, 2021

Reckon

The trailer is 750kg minimum
Marcos Weighs 500kg ish
one on the back is 1300 - 1500
Engine 50 - 100kg

So if he is rated at 2.5 he is very close at best more likely over his allotted 2.5
But his nose wheel weight is way off with the engine on the front

certainly wouldn't want to go to far with that outfit.

Would be a very slow ride or a white knuckle affair whilst watching the mirror like a hawk for the first hint of sway..

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