Yeah been changed mate. Tried easy start but doesn't start with the aid of thatHave you changed the high pressure fuel pump regulator O rings yet? A failed O ring won't show up as a fault code. But will stop is starting without assistance of some easy start.
Nodge68
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I suggest a compression test then. A diesel should fire on easy start, even if there's no fuel available.
Shippers
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Looks like your going to have to bite the bullet dude...refurb or new dont buy again from scrappy...at least you know now the issue.
Yeah not adverse to a little name dropping buddy. Same me a few ££'s hopefully
Shippers
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Get back to you monday but as always Baz only uses the best...no use to a tech if the parts you fit dont work and owner not happy...
Managed to get 4 reconditioned injectors today and picked up new copper washers. Fitted them and still the same. Tried and runs for a second or 2 but severe low revs where input on the accelerater pedal makes no difference then goes back to cranking
Bloody car.
Any further idea's?
Thanks
Bloody car.
Any further idea's?
Thanks
Sorry to hear that buddy. Hope your feeling better. Yeah tried easy start but no luck. A valve sounds hopeful tho mate
Shippers
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Csu valve on back of pump he mentioned no idea what it is....will try and get hold of him tomorrow and get back to you...would you be prepared to phone him here in algarve...he gave me the bloody cold on new years day when he came for dinner...feeling better today hopefully get head finished on v8 and get my 101 running at weekend...cheers Rob
Yeah I'd be OK will calling him buddy.
Haha that's not good mate , my misses nearly gave me it but lucky I only had it for a day then I was alright
Shippers
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Will speak to him tomorrow morning and get back to you...see when its best to phone...cheers Rob
Shippers
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Mates not able to take calls at mo hes trying to clear backlog of broke motors so youll get someone else who wont know what your talking about and just waste your time...however no start on refurb injectors he says check timing...no start on easy start check compresion...
hi folks, sorry for the lack of activity but i unfortunately suffered a badly dislocated and broken ankle so that put me out the game for a while. Still broken and awaiting surgery but now more than ever desperate to get this freelander on the road so that my misses car drive us around as i cant at the moment.
with all the issues and new parts fitted as described in the above thread , if this was your car where would you be looking next?
ive seen some threads that have suggested the HP fuel pump?
or the fuel rail sensor?
as always i appreciate the help from everyone on this forum
thank you in advance
with all the issues and new parts fitted as described in the above thread , if this was your car where would you be looking next?
ive seen some threads that have suggested the HP fuel pump?
or the fuel rail sensor?
as always i appreciate the help from everyone on this forum
thank you in advance
GrumpyGel
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Sorry to hear about your injury.
There are so many of these TD4 not starting issues at the moment with subtle difference - like yours chugging away on low revs before dieing.
For it not to start on easy start though is a big alarm bell! When the engine cranks the valves action as normal and it will be sucking the easy start in as fuel - if there's fuel in the cylinders it SHOULD ignite - there's nothing else needed - injectors, ECU etc.
So that points to it not being a fuel or electrical issue - and points to a mechanical issue. Even the low revs makes it sound like the electrics are working and fuel being delivered - but there is a mechanical issue making the engine struggle.
As Nodge said previously, a compression test may be in order - there was an example where bad injectors had basically eaten away at cylinders because of fuel burning incorrectly which I'm sure was TD4.
Stealing Nodge's advice on another issue, its possible the exhaust (cat) is blocked. I'm not sure I've seen an example of a TD4 suffering this on the forum, but there was a V6 that had problems due to a blocked cat. I don't know if you can simply disconnect the exhaust to see if it will fire.
I've never used easy start, so not sure whether you're squirting it into the air filter box or removing the intercooler hose and squirting it in "closer" to the engine - but are there any blockages between where you're squirting it and the engine - eg internal delaminated hoses, blocked intercooler etc.
Are you sure you were using the easy start correctly?
There are so many of these TD4 not starting issues at the moment with subtle difference - like yours chugging away on low revs before dieing.
For it not to start on easy start though is a big alarm bell! When the engine cranks the valves action as normal and it will be sucking the easy start in as fuel - if there's fuel in the cylinders it SHOULD ignite - there's nothing else needed - injectors, ECU etc.
So that points to it not being a fuel or electrical issue - and points to a mechanical issue. Even the low revs makes it sound like the electrics are working and fuel being delivered - but there is a mechanical issue making the engine struggle.
As Nodge said previously, a compression test may be in order - there was an example where bad injectors had basically eaten away at cylinders because of fuel burning incorrectly which I'm sure was TD4.
Stealing Nodge's advice on another issue, its possible the exhaust (cat) is blocked. I'm not sure I've seen an example of a TD4 suffering this on the forum, but there was a V6 that had problems due to a blocked cat. I don't know if you can simply disconnect the exhaust to see if it will fire.
I've never used easy start, so not sure whether you're squirting it into the air filter box or removing the intercooler hose and squirting it in "closer" to the engine - but are there any blockages between where you're squirting it and the engine - eg internal delaminated hoses, blocked intercooler etc.
Are you sure you were using the easy start correctly?
thank you very much for your reply and advice. the easy start has been squirted in both the air intake and thru the intercooler pipe but both failed. it was running slightly with very low revs when being towed behind another car but again when I put the clutch in it cut and even with my foot planted on the accelerater it made no difference at all
I have a guy out with a faults computer that came up about the injectors so I replaced these from a working vehicle and got him back out. He cleared the faults and the car again very slightly with low revs was going but only for a few seconds then just went back to turning over.
He was meant to come back out as it was dark at the time and unfortunately has not and will not return my calls. Great Mobile mechanic
If I found another mobile guy would they be able to do a compression test? I'm not sure what's involved in it.
Never heard about the exhaust issue for a td4 but worth a look tho
When I got the car it ran , sometimes would bounce in and out of limp home mode but it did run and it ran well so I'm at a complete loss now
I've so far changed
Injectors
Cam cover and gasket
Hp regulator
Lp fuel pump (under back arch)
Air filter
Cut off switch (under bonnet)
Glow plugs
Think that's it but I may remember more ( bloody pain killers )
GrumpyGel
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One other thing that people have done on the TD4 and that is to replace the regulator the wrong way round on the injection pump - I don't have one so don't know what that means or looks like - but presumably its easily done.
Not sure if that would allow it to chug on low revs, and definitely wouldn't stop it firing with easy start.
Not sure if that would allow it to chug on low revs, and definitely wouldn't stop it firing with easy start.
Yeah I've tried this wee trick. It allowed the low chugging revs as it didn't do it before I turned it.
Bloody car's. Never simple
