gold rover said:
I'm sure you will. I also mentioned club but youve chosen to ignore that. That does not change the fact you walked in, gave no details , except someone wants to give me a RR for my LC and 15k, is it worth trading . How should we know?
You are more likely to know the market price in your area. You are the only one who knows for sure if you think 'it's worth the trade'. You're the only one who knows whether you prefer the LC or the RR for looks, comfort, finance, what youre using it for, and probably a hundred other personal choices.
Asking specific questions is one thing., e.g. which gearbox seems to have less issues, should I buy a RR with a known fault, are 22" low profiles a good idea, any idea what the vibration through the floor is,etc. As I already said, asking a bunch of strangers, for advice on which car you should drive is ludicrous , anyone saying otherwise is as ludicrous as the question itself. On here , the majority will say RR, (with the caveat, they break down all the time but we love them), go on a Toyota site, the majority will say LC.
In case you didnt get it my last analogy, asking strangers, which car you should buy, is akin to asking strangers which underwear(or lack of) is best for you. That's how tailored to the individual it is.
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Nasty.
 
Well, this is an interesting thread...

Around about now you'll have noticed that LandyZone's a bit different from all other Forums and the views can be honest and blunt!

Something like the L405 RR that you're looking at is going to be a rare find around here, so you're probably not going to get lots of direct experience. You could try fullfatrr.com, though you will find a lot of people who complain bitterly with relatively minor issues and it's unlikely that you'll get a fair and balanced idea of how reliable they are there either...

From my own experience, I've owned 6 modern Land Rovers since 2011 and traveled over 250,000 miles between them. I've really enjoyed owning each and every one of them. I've had the current L405 from new for just over 13 months. The car is well built and a joy to own and drive and it's mostly very reliable, although I did have one problem that kept the car off the road for 44 days at 11 months / 30,000 miles as a result of modified parts being needed. The SDV8 in the L405 that you are looking at has a good reputation for reliability, but Land Rovers attempts at modern infotainment systems are either very dated or stupidly bug ridden and unreliable. Fortunately, the one that you're looking at just has a dated (but largely reliable) system.

I'm happy to run mine, but I have a 3 year manufacturer's warranty, the factory virtually on the doorstep and a choice of 3 main dealers within easy reach, I also like the car so much that I'm understanding of the odd issue. I'd also expect that you'd find it much nicer to travel in than the LC, but I'd be reluctant to recommend the change without a warranty (or deep pockets) and the certainty of good support nearby. I have no idea what Land Rover's support is like where you are.
 
Tigger Eeyore & Roo said:
Well, this is an interesting thread...

Around about now you'll have noticed that LandyZone's a bit different from all other Forums and the views can be honest and blunt!

Something like the L405 RR that you're looking at is going to be a rare find around here, so you're probably not going to get lots of direct experience. You could try fullfatrr.com, though you will find a lot of people who complain bitterly with relatively minor issues and it's unlikely that you'll get a fair and balanced idea of how reliable they are there either...

From my own experience, I've owned 6 modern Land Rovers since 2011 and traveled over 250,000 miles between them. I've really enjoyed owning each and every one of them. I've had the current L405 from new for just over 13 months. The car is well built and a joy to own and drive and it's mostly very reliable, although I did have one problem that kept the car off the road for 44 days at 11 months / 30,000 miles as a result of modified parts being needed. The SDV8 in the L405 that you are looking at has a good reputation for reliability, but Land Rovers attempts at modern infotainment systems are either very dated or stupidly bug ridden and unreliable. Fortunately, the one that you're looking at just has a dated (but largely reliable) system.

I'm happy to run mine, but I have a 3 year manufacturer's warranty, the factory virtually on the doorstep and a choice of 3 main dealers within easy reach, I also like the car so much that I'm understanding of the odd issue. I'd also expect that you'd find it much nicer to travel in than the LC, but I'd be reluctant to recommend the change without a warranty (or deep pockets) and the certainty of good support nearby. I have no idea what Land Rover's support is like where you are.
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You are right about needing deep pocket when the warranty runs out, just the dealer price for replacing a rusted brake line would bankrupt me and when the electronics play up as often seem to be the case, I'd have to mortgage the house to pay for the time dealers waste due to lack of appropriate knowledge trying to fix things by replacing bits.
 
@ Datatek: Ironically, one of the problems under warranty is that rather than replace bits seemingly at random (in the hope of fixing something), everything has to be done under the direct instruction of LR. The dealer doesn't seem to carry out any diagnoses themselves, but rather email LR and await for their instructions and permission to try the next thing, either that or simply download the latest software patch and hope it fixes it.

While they don't waste very much of LR's money replacing random parts, it can mean that progress can be frustratingly slow when things do go wrong.
 
gold rover said:
Maybe we should write LR RR? ;)

Addit: : Just in case it's mistaken , in a Range Rover forum for any of the meanings listed on the link
https://acronyms.thefreedictionary.com/RR
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I didn't see "rectum rogering"?
Actually, is there is a real risk this thread could go sideways?o_O thinking-face_1f914.png
 
Tigger Eeyore & Roo said:
@ Datatek: Ironically, one of the problems under warranty is that rather than replace bits seemingly at random (in the hope of fixing something), everything has to be done under the direct instruction of LR. The dealer doesn't seem to carry out any diagnoses themselves, but rather email LR and await for their instructions and permission to try the next thing, either that or simply download the latest software patch and hope it fixes it.

While they don't waste very much of LR's money replacing random parts, it can mean that progress can be frustratingly slow when things do go wrong.
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That just emphasises my point about lack of dealer knowledge and once the warranty runs out LR will not be answering emails so the dealers are left high and dry.
 
Datatek said:
That just emphasises my point about lack of dealer knowledge and once the warranty runs out LR will not be answering emails so the dealers are left high and dry.
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Agreed. I doubt I will forget in a hurry the case, not long ago, where a FFRR engine had failed at 100K miles, and LR allegedly weren't interested, saying, "you have had your value out of that".

Modern cars? No thanks.
 
Disco1BFG said:
Agreed. I doubt I will forget in a hurry the case, not long ago, where a FFRR engine had failed at 100K miles, and LR allegedly weren't interested, saying, "you have had your value out of that".

Modern cars? No thanks.
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I remember that one too. It's a far cry from the days when dealers were happy to see twenty or thirty year old vehicles and could still work on them.
 
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Just to add to al of the above. The more I have the Golden Girl and the more I read about newer versions and new models, the more I think I shall just hold on to her. I have done so much work on her, that I feel upgrading wouldnt really be. I would merely be buying newer, used Range Rover, which would be already heading to needing all the big jobs done.
 
gold rover said:
Just to add to al of the above. The more I have the Golden Girl and the more I read about newer versions and new models, the more I think I shall just hold on to her. I have done so much work on her, that I feel upgrading wouldnt really be. I would merely be buying newer, used Range Rover, which would be already heading to needing all the big jobs done.
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Better to stick with what ya know ;)
 
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