blue beasty
Leaks an prone to bits dropping off
I's backhold on while the pics upload!
well that's a massive relief cause yeah, like we've all been sat waiting.....
well that's a massive relief cause yeah, like we've all been sat waiting.....
Dr_evil
Banned
Right here we go
Now the muncie box is my box of choice but budget constraints are an issue here.......the face to face adaptor will cost me £350 to have cut and hardened which is a bit pricey
So with this in mind I can get an adaptor made up for next to nothing on the ZF box due to it being an output flange!
The issue here is the box is 3 1/2" longer than the Muncie and not quite as tough although thats negligible! This is a box from a Pinzgaur or Volvo truck after all this I know from the selector housing with it being a long stick rather than the remote version used in the Maserati and Alfas (it was also mated to a Hemi)
Now the standard series prop shaft length is 21 13/16ths my old prop length was 14" with a crazy angle on it due to the R380 box.....
With the Zf box being 1" shorter than the stumpy R380 we're already winning here and mated to the LT230 using a 1/2" spacer plate we get to a 17" prop shaft on a rough estimate with the tape and a far better working angle as the box isn't as deep.
This combined with the fact that I still have 3" to play with up front and the Cadillac 429 block is 1/2" shorter than the RV8 this gives me a prop length of 20 1/2" meaning I'm not far off standard!
But I can also drop this box down in the chassis due to it being a little smaller so my working angle is further reduced! This means I'm no longer running a 35* rear prop angle and I'm much closer to about 15* another huge bonus as it means I can use standard UJ's instead of pricey wide angles
The front prop crossmember will have to be scalloped slightly but this isn't an issue as I can make it look like a military one like they have to run when on higher suspension setting.
My one gripe with using the ZF box is that I lose my granny gear 7.05 becomes 3.9 which is still lower than any landrover box! But no where near the SM420 crawler I do however gain a cruising gear but it has a very weird set up for the gears where first gear is where second would be......I can see myself getting in trouble putting it into reverse instead of first for a while
You can see the LR ratios here for all boxes Links
Anyway here's some pics and I'm gonna make a start on the adaptor tomorrow
Now the muncie box is my box of choice but budget constraints are an issue here.......the face to face adaptor will cost me £350 to have cut and hardened which is a bit pricey
So with this in mind I can get an adaptor made up for next to nothing on the ZF box due to it being an output flange!
The issue here is the box is 3 1/2" longer than the Muncie and not quite as tough although thats negligible! This is a box from a Pinzgaur or Volvo truck after all this I know from the selector housing with it being a long stick rather than the remote version used in the Maserati and Alfas (it was also mated to a Hemi)
Now the standard series prop shaft length is 21 13/16ths my old prop length was 14" with a crazy angle on it due to the R380 box.....
With the Zf box being 1" shorter than the stumpy R380 we're already winning here and mated to the LT230 using a 1/2" spacer plate we get to a 17" prop shaft on a rough estimate with the tape and a far better working angle as the box isn't as deep.
This combined with the fact that I still have 3" to play with up front and the Cadillac 429 block is 1/2" shorter than the RV8 this gives me a prop length of 20 1/2" meaning I'm not far off standard!
But I can also drop this box down in the chassis due to it being a little smaller so my working angle is further reduced! This means I'm no longer running a 35* rear prop angle and I'm much closer to about 15* another huge bonus as it means I can use standard UJ's instead of pricey wide angles
The front prop crossmember will have to be scalloped slightly but this isn't an issue as I can make it look like a military one like they have to run when on higher suspension setting.
My one gripe with using the ZF box is that I lose my granny gear
7.05 becomes 3.9 which is still lower than any landrover box! But no where near the SM420 crawler I do however gain a cruising gear but it has a very weird set up for the gears where first gear is where second would be......I can see myself getting in trouble putting it into reverse instead of first for a while You can see the LR ratios here for all boxes Links
Anyway here's some pics
and I'm gonna make a start on the adaptor tomorrow 
chunkymunky
New Member
Anything that improves that angle and ultimately less one off manufactured parts has to be good.
200tdi ayre
Well-Known Member
I see me being back from Australia before this is done ...
Dr_evil
Banned
I see this being done before......
200tdi ayre
Well-Known Member
Dr_evil
Banned
nrgserv
Well-Known Member
Dr_evil
Banned
Its on hold......don't have the time to finish off the tub repairs and finish riveting in the bulkhead again with its support panels as the front end of it was rotten where it bolts to the outriggers and central crossmember so its just being a truck cab for now while I work on that in the background
Doesn't bother me as I'll get round to it eventually, still want it on there but want it done right
Doesn't bother me as I'll get round to it eventually, still want it on there but want it done right
discomark10
Well-Known Member
nice job on the x member mate!
Dr_evil
Banned
Found a small slit in the top if the chassis rail that I made last night when removing the old one. Gotta weld it up now before I put the new tub on and I have a sneaking suspicion that my wiring look may be slightly fried!
Not a problem as I made a new one but still a little annoying
and I have a sneaking suspicion that my wiring look may be slightly fried!Not a problem as I made a new one but still a little annoying
Dr_evil
Banned
It looks like a series again
Got the series tub repaired, put the tub on, bolted up the truck cab and tomorrow I'll continue to tidy it up and make a start on the transfer adaptor plates
The rear tub edge was quite sharp.....really do need to be more careful! The little cuts that just keep bleeding are the worst
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Got the series tub repaired, put the tub on, bolted up the truck cab and tomorrow I'll continue to tidy it up and make a start on the transfer adaptor plates
The rear tub edge was quite sharp.....really do need to be more careful! The little cuts that just keep bleeding are the worst
Defender-Sam
New Member
looks good doc, as practical as the king cab would/will be it looks great with the truck cab on
