TerryHo said:
Hi everyone,

I’ve got my eye on a Series IIa which has recently been restored.
During the restore, the chap fitted a ‘soft-top front seat belt bar‘, to enable inertia reel seat belts to be fitted.
If I buy it, I’d like to return it back to original.

Can I please ask a favour?
Would someone please mind sharing some photos of their soft-top Series IIa seatbelts and seatbelt mounts?

I’m keen to understand the difference between what he’s fitted and the original spec.

Much appreciated.
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I'm sure you've either kept the modified setup, or found the original three point static arrangement fitted from 1964. NOT lap belts, but a manually adjustable three point belt for the driver and passenger front.
If your interested, I'm currently restoring mine on a series three 1974 88.
The top connects a caribena like connector. I'm sure it's as yours would most likely have been, and if your still interested in making as original, I could get some pictures.
Because I'm replacing my gearbox, had to remove the seat box , which I've fully restored and rebuilt as original, due to galvanic corrosion by the bottom seat belt mounting points.
Consistently in doing the same with my seatbelts due to bits being rusty, which would not work aesthetically with the rebuilt seat box and floor. So sandblasting the bottom steel mounts and repainting black, and fitting new the point static belts as the originals, just not Brittax, but Securiton, as brittax no longer seem to make them.
I considered the bar mounted Defender system, but would rather keep it factory
 
My Series 3 FFR soft top has an original factory-fitted roll bar attached to the tub part no MTC4211 which incorporates the upper seat belt mounts. Probably more original-looking than a Defender seat belt mount bar but just as effective.
 
Mine is on the frame for the soft top. Was just installed by local garage and the mech is also the mot inspector so its all cosha. Looks fine when the tops off, take the back frame off and leave the front part
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Very nice. I recognised that those are Santana lights before I noticed the logos on the mudflaps and that it is LHD.
 
Spent most of its life on a banana farm on Tenerife, bought it off the old boy when we lived there, great rover, had it a fair few years now and no probs at all. 100% original
 
Fatrover said:
Spent most of its life on a banana farm on Tenerife, bought it off the old boy when we lived there, great rover, had it a fair few years now and no probs at all. 100% original
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Tenerife eh? Must have been quite an undertaking to ship it from there, if it had been on the Spanish mainland at least you could have conceivably driven it back. I'm not surprised you wanted to keep it though, especially having bought it from someone who probably owned it for some time.

I had one once, must upload a few more pics of it.
 
Lol,
My 1975 original Station Wagon fixed seat belt top mounts.
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I have new fixed seatbelts to fit as original, because I've rebuilt the seat box.
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And they will sit like so.
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They are just fitted to the outer two front seats, everyone else just have to hang on lol
 
6pot said:
Tenerife eh? Must have been quite an undertaking to ship it from there, if it had been on the Spanish mainland at least you could have conceivably driven it back. I'm not surprised you wanted to keep it though, especially having bought it from someone who probably owned it for some time.

I had one once, must upload a few more pics of it.
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Stuck it n a shipping container with house stuff, wasnt that expensive at all. Drove it a lot over the canaries and voyages to the mainland, great truck never let me down. Used it for my tree business.... old banana farmer painted it yellow,wi a bloody great banana logo on it, so i repainted in bronze green last year. Old boy was a great character, got the rover in 76 took him two years to bother to register it hence why its on an S plate, should actually be a P but dVla insisted it has to be spanish year of first reg! Madness
 
Fatrover said:
Stuck it n a shipping container with house stuff, wasnt that expensive at all. Drove it a lot over the canaries and voyages to the mainland, great truck never let me down. Used it for my tree business.... old banana farmer painted it yellow,wi a bloody great banana logo on it, so i repainted in bronze green last year. Old boy was a great character, got the rover in 76 took him two years to bother to register it hence why its on an S plate, should actually be a P but dVla insisted it has to be spanish year of first reg! Madness
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I suppose moved with a load of household stuff it would have been quite economical.

I was wondering about the reg, what you have said is pretty much what I thought must be the case but it's interesting that the old boy didn't bother registering it straight away, I guess he must have used it on his own land initially. Things have a reputation for being a bit more free and easy in Spain but I don't think it extended as far as unregistered vehicles! Even in 1976. Your black plates look great, I must get some of those made up.

My Santana was originally registered in Jaen in 1974 but someone moved with it, or sold it to someone, in Malaga and re-registered it there so it had MA plates dating from 1986. Apparently back in those days some people didn't like having plates identifying them from another province and if the registration fee and taxes were paid again it was possible to re-register and get a new registration number, which were purely sequential. Therefore mine had a date of registration and a date of first registration which were different.
 
Never seen the point of having seatbelts in a car where your face is the one and only crumple zone. :)
 
Colthebrummie said:
I'm the opposite, I'd rather not wear a seat belt or a crash helmet, I sometimes go out on my motorbike without a helmet if I'm just going somewhere local. If I ever buy another series, it will be a pre seat belt era one. I know it's the law blah, blah blah and I understand the risks but I hate the thought of following advice given by Jimmy Savile.

Col
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Statistics show that the majority of accidents are within are a few km of home. Taking short trips is not a good reason to ignore Safety. Same as ignoring Safety precautions on the job as "I've done it this way before without a problem".
Please pardon the lecture from a retired Safety professional.
 
6pot said:
I suppose moved with a load of household stuff it would have been quite economical.

I was wondering about the reg, what you have said is pretty much what I thought must be the case but it's interesting that the old boy didn't bother registering it straight away, I guess he must have used it on his own land initially. Things have a reputation for being a bit more free and easy in Spain but I don't think it extended as far as unregistered vehicles! Even in 1976. Your black plates look great, I must get some of those made up.

My Santana was originally registered in Jaen in 1974 but someone moved with it, or sold it to someone, in Malaga and re-registered it there so it had MA plates dating from 1986. Apparently back in those days some people didn't like having plates identifying them from another province and if the registration fee and taxes were paid again it was possible to re-register and get a new registration number, which were purely sequential. Therefore mine had a date of registration and a date of first registration which were different.
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Yes, it was used on the farm for the first couple of years then went on to a TF plate......i painted it with spanish navy boat paint initially here it is in the mountains
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