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Guys,

I know this have been done to death, but I want to be 100% before I buy as I want to be safe...

We're forever getting the small tractors (MF135/35/T20 etc) on my in-laws small holding stuck in the peat - one slip of the wheels, and the turf comes off and its down hill from there very quickly - it is sooo soft!!

I love it personally, but can't help but imagine my newly acquired 90 would pull them out with a kinetic strap much more effectively then a chain and another 2wd tractor, which regularly results in two stuck, or nearly stuck vehicles!

Is this strap, connected with green-pin 4.75 shackles and a heavy towel tied to the middle 'safe' - assuming JATE rings n bridle on (the rot free front of) the Landy and a suitable point on the tractor is used?

Obviously we need to use with caution and all/any bystanders need to be well back...

PM642 | Pro Comp Recovery Strap. 2in x 20foot. 20,000lb rating.

FYI I also plan to buy a 4.5m nylon rope for towing, so the strap mentioned above is just for recovery.

Any tips and advise welcome

Cheers
Tom

PS he won't by a 4wd tractor, and I'd like to use/have the strap when I get around to some proper off roading myself!
 
do you apply diff lock before getting stuck or nearly stuck ,can you use dual wheels or cage , you can chain a plank/post to rear of wheels and back out
 
Devs90 said:
Alot of the lads use these

PM691 | Kinetic Tow Rope - 8 metre x 24mm (2 ton Working Load Limit, 12 ton Minimum Breaking Load) (WEB EXCLUSIVE SPECIAL OFFER)
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Thanks. Is there much difference between the two - I don't have a preference?

jamesmartin said:
do you apply diff lock before getting stuck or nearly stuck ,can you use dual wheels or cage , you can chain a plank/post to rear of wheels and back out
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The tractors are old and in need of restoration to be perfectly honest, and while you can engage the diff, it doesn't seem to work. In fact the MF40 (is in pieces because you can't get the diff lock off - ironically.

No room for cages in the barn as it is already a very tight squeeze to get them all in as it is.

I wanted to chain fence posts to the rears last weekend, but he wasn't having any of it - plus we'd of no doubt struggled to find more chain! :rolleyes:

Tom
 
110widebody said:
Thanks. Is there much difference between the two - I don't have a preference?



The tractors are old and in need of restoration to be perfectly honest, and while you can engage the diff, it doesn't seem to work. In fact the MF40 (is in pieces because you can't get the diff lock off - ironically.

No room for cages in the barn as it is already a very tight squeeze to get them all in as it is.

I wanted to chain fence posts to the rears last weekend, but he wasn't having any of it - plus we'd of no doubt struggled to find more chain! :rolleyes:

Tom
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you can chain plank across the 2 wheels ensuring you stop when plank gets to the clutch housing ,we had bits of chain made up to take with tractor when using on soft ground as it was anticipated ,maybe fixing difflock etc if its regular , but i guess you want to play with landy
 
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jamesmartin said:
you can chain plank across the 2 wheels ensuring you stop when plank gets to the clutch housing ,we had bits of chain made up to take with tractor when using on soft ground as it was anticipated , but i guess you want to play with landy
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I do, definitely, who here doesn't?

But:

There are 7 tractors, so 7 x length of chain, and there is barely enough chain to hang a man, and he is definitively too tight to buy any more.

The 7 tractors share 3 batteries, so when you want to move them you've got to fanny about swapping them to and forth - I'm sure you can picture it now....

If I buy a strap/rope and keep it in my truck I will be able to use it for my own off roading and helping the old man out.

Cheers
Tom

They all need fixing in one way or another, but he still works full-time, and despite being there for over 35yrs, there are plenty of jobs that come first.
The MF165 have been sat in the barn minus its head for over a year, but that is a vast improvement: when I met his daughter (my wife) I had walked past said tractor without even knowing it was there such was the amount of junk burring it!
 
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same chains x 2 fits all so you just use one set ,its cheap , but im just proving a point its quite possible to unstick a tractor on your own,:)
 
jamesmartin said:
same chains x 2 fits all so you just use one set ,its cheap , but im just proving a point its quite possible to unstick a tractor on your own,:)
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It is you're right: it wasn't more than a few months ago I watched a youtube clip of a small tractor (maybe MF35) climb out of a deep hole by with a collection of timbers chained at right angles to the rear wheels...

*I want a strap and rope in my truck regardless*

Tom

This is the clip I think: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YnRRGW6z3UQ

It doesn't always work as planned, and looks like it can be a bit hairy! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UA5uqsG0sTk
 
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110widebody said:
It is you're right: it wasn't more than a few months ago I watched a youtube clip of a small tractor (maybe MF35) climb out of a deep hole by with a collection of timbers chained at right angles to the rear wheels...

*I want a strap and rope in my truck regardless*

Tom
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there was , ive never seen it done that way before we strapped across and the wheels climbed over the plank taking it with them much simpler ,:)
 
mf diff lock should be good,but linkage can sieze need adjusting often never used on the smaller tractors ,though it could be more seriously broken too , it locks shaft to diff housing much like the after market lockers used in landies , preferrably used well before wheels slip , is pedal stiff
 
Thor1950 said:
No them old tractors did not have diff lock. You used the foot brakes to transfer power to the other wheel
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You're right - the mechanism I am referring to that we have on the various tractors is only a brake of sorts on a different pedal. I don't know a lot about it, but you can see it clearly in this picture:
https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=m...2Fwww.myfergie.co.uk%2Fwhats-new.html;600;450

Does that just operate the drums on both rears?

Tom

EDIT: James you've cleared it up!

From memory pedal moves on at least one of them, but the pedal on the MF40 is rock solid!

Cheers
Tom
 
jamesmartin said:
mf diff lock should be good,but linkage can sieze need adjusting often never used on the smaller tractors ,though it could be more seriously broken too , it locks shaft to diff housing much like the after market lockers used in landies , preferrably used well before wheels slip , is pedal stiff
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just a sliding shaft to lock them. In the early 60's locking diffs was a option so not all of them had them.
 
110widebody said:
I do, definitely, who here doesn't?

But:

There are 7 tractors, so 7 x length of chain, and there is barely enough chain to hang a man, and he is definitively too tight to buy any more.

The 7 tractors share 3 batteries, so when you want to move them you've got to fanny about swapping them to and forth - I'm sure you can picture it now....

If I buy a strap/rope and keep it in my truck I will be able to use it for my own off roading and helping the old man out.

Cheers
Tom

They all need fixing in one way or another, but he still works full-time, and despite being there for over 35yrs, there are plenty of jobs that come first.
The MF165 have been sat in the barn minus its head for over a year, but that is a vast improvement: when I met his daughter (my wife) I had walked past said tractor without even knowing it was there such was the amount of junk burring it!
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Omg sounds just like our house I got three battery's in the dining room ready for when needed , I've always used strops and large shackles , but in saying that the other day we bought a DB tried to pull it out it has a siezed drum and my strap broke , but other than that I prefer them over chains for pulling , we've had no problems :):)
 
110widebody said:
You're right - the mechanism I am referring to that we have on the various tractors is only a brake of sorts on a different pedal. I don't know a lot about it, but you can see it clearly in this picture:
https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=m...2Fwww.myfergie.co.uk%2Fwhats-new.html;600;450

Does that just operate the drums on both rears?

Tom

EDIT: James you've cleared it up!

From memory pedal moves on at least one of them, but the pedal on the MF40 is rock solid!

Cheers
Tom
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they should all have independant brakes , which used wisely can keep you going a manual version of traction control , im not suure which models had difflock , i know grey fergie we had didnt but later models had ,depends on age as thor mentioned
 
jamesmartin said:
they should all have independant brakes , which used wisely can keep you going a manual version of traction control , im not suure which models had difflock , i know grey fergie we had didnt but later models had ,depends on age as thor mentioned
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That's right - I'm sure the T20 doesn't, but the 135's and 40's do. I'll look more closely next time I'm down there.

So back to:

Is this strap, connected with green-pin 4.75 shackles and a heavy towel tied to the middle 'safe' - assuming JATE rings n bridle on (the rot free front of) the Landy and a suitable point on the tractor is used?

Obviously we need to use with caution and all/any bystanders need to be well back...

Shall I get ones of these to tug with?
http://www.paddockspares.com/pm691-...reaking-load-web-exclusive-special-offer.html

This to spread the load
PM1174 | 2mtr Revovery Tow Strap

(And why don't paddocks sell d shackles!? FOUND THEM but only in 3.25)

Green pins
Green Pin Hi-Load 4.75T 4x4 Recovery Bow Shackle 4x4 farming wood fishing | eBay

..and if someone could cut my sandwich up and wipe my arse that would be great too (in that order!) :)

Cheers
Tom
 
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Tractors = :wtf::whoosh:

Anyway, that pro comp strap is a kinetic recovery strap. Is that what your after, or are you after a standard strop?

Some people like the pro comp straps but others prefer the kinetic rope. Horses for courses i think.

You seem to have the rest covered ref recovery procedures.
 
BIG_GINGA_BEARD said:
Tractors = :wtf::whoosh:

Anyway, that pro comp strap is a kinetic recovery strap. Is that what your after, or are you after a standard strop?

Some people like the pro comp straps but others prefer the kinetic rope. Horses for courses i think.

You seem to have the rest covered ref recovery procedures.
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Hi, and thanks for your reply.

I think the stretch and build up of kinetic energy (even if used very moderately) would be hugely useful on the soft peat where you really only get one shot - 'if you spin you're in'!!

It would be useful if Paddocks offered a little bit more of an explanation of their recovery items to be honest - I think it would be responsible to.

Cheers
Tom
 
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