4" angle iron between tyre & rim then hit with sledge hammer will brake the bead it's prob the fastest way instead of hi-lift or driving up a lump of wood !!
Iv got a little tyre machine that's bolted to the floor & powerd by air it brakes the bead then holds the wheel in place wile you walk around it with a bar iv had it years but saw one at a sale a few months back only made £40 I think there made by sealy or vicking
Iv got a little tyre machine that's bolted to the floor & powerd by air it brakes the bead then holds the wheel in place wile you walk around it with a bar iv had it years but saw one at a sale a few months back only made £40 I think there made by sealy or vicking
easye1
Banned
Putlog!
Were you taking wagon tyres off!?
nope, most the tyres were for use in my racing days.
14 years worth in bangers, stock cars and rods...
factor in taking half dozen or more for spares,
then you get the picture...
the thought of swinging lump hammers on tyres seems daft, when you use the weight of a car to do most of the work - it worked for me
except the 1off disco tyre.. but then I was 28 year younger than I am now when I finished with it all
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Locky1978
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Well I have to say it was a lot easier than I thought it would be. My log splitter didn't arrive yet but I thought I would give it a go anyway.
I have to say the hardest part is getting the rim out of the final half of the tyre. But if you're just putting a new tube in then of course you only need to get the one half off.
The puncture was a tiny pin hole on the tread side so I must have run over something.
I came out this morning to find another flat also.
On the plus side I found some military surplus tubes for a fiver each.
I have to say the hardest part is getting the rim out of the final half of the tyre. But if you're just putting a new tube in then of course you only need to get the one half off.
The puncture was a tiny pin hole on the tread side so I must have run over something.
I came out this morning to find another flat also.
On the plus side I found some military surplus tubes for a fiver each.
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flat
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Well I have to say it was a lot easier than I thought it would be. My log splitter didn't arrive yet but I thought I would give it a go anyway.
I have to say the hardest part is getting the rim out of the final half of the tyre. But if you're just putting a new tube in then of course you only need to get the one half off.
The puncture was a tiny pin hole on the tread side so I must have run over something.
I came out this morning to find another flat also.
On the plus side I found some military surplus tubes for a fiver each.
There isn't a bit of the casing sticking into the inside of the tyre or a piece of something that only protrudes into the tyre in certain positions?
barleywine
Well-Known Member
Not sure if it helps, when I remove my push bike inner tubes, I lay them on top of wheel and check tyre where puncture is to see if anything is still there to puncture fresh tube.
Quite often you will get a thorn that is just poking through, don't know if that could happen with a Land Rover wheel though.
Quite often you will get a thorn that is just poking through, don't know if that could happen with a Land Rover wheel though.
Locky1978
Active Member
Haha, I'm not a cowboy. But I am a cheap-skate.
Barley, yeah I do exactly the same with my road bike tyres. Couldn't feel anything on the inside of the tire. The hole is so small it looks like a thorn hole. But would a thorn make it through a 10 ply tyre? we did drive over loads of fallen hawthorn branches that day.
Barley, yeah I do exactly the same with my road bike tyres. Couldn't feel anything on the inside of the tire. The hole is so small it looks like a thorn hole. But would a thorn make it through a 10 ply tyre? we did drive over loads of fallen hawthorn branches that day.
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T0P5Y
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Ifs it cost effect against effort required then i am all for it! To me though i would want balancing done so i am all in with the garage, to be fair though i havent yet paid garage prices as i have done all mine myself - perks of being in a vehicke mechanics post with the Royal Marines!
thought it was mine!
New Member
if your doing a tyre to put tube in mark tyre and wheel and put back to marks as if it's been balance you wont thro it out of balance.
T0P5Y
Member
You would be surprised as to how wrong that is, as its not always the placing of the tyre, its the material properties of the tyre fluctuating and changing shape when being put on and off, you can put it on in exactly the same place and to yhe same pressure and still be 15g out! I tried that theory a few times in work on military vehicles and military owned civilian cars! Always pays to get a proper balance done,
thought it was mine!
New Member
cheers did not no that but ther again have loads of mates in tyres so never do it myself, get them done for a five crate of beer or box of tea bags
T0P5Y
Member
cheers did not no that but ther again have loads of mates in tyres so never do it myself, get them done for a five crate of beer or box of tea bags
If this was faceache then your comment would be liked! Can't be favours for beer and beverages!
It must be something in the inside of the tyre.
Is there some of the steel inner tyre worn through somewhere? Have you had your hand all the way round the inside of the tyre? it could be like you say and a thorn or a pin head that only just sticks through the rubber when it is under pressure?
Got any pictures of where a bouts on the tube the hole is?
Only other thing is your getting someone doing it! ****ed any of the neighbours off recently? :lol:
Is there some of the steel inner tyre worn through somewhere? Have you had your hand all the way round the inside of the tyre? it could be like you say and a thorn or a pin head that only just sticks through the rubber when it is under pressure?
Got any pictures of where a bouts on the tube the hole is?
Only other thing is your getting someone doing it!
****ed any of the neighbours off recently? :lol:Couple of things..
Firstly, a thorn would easily go through, you'd be amazed at how sharp those buggers can be. Also make sure you don't just check the inside but the out aswell as sometimes the offending article can be in the tread and only poke through when its driven on to wiggle it through.
Secondly, the reason you had so much trouble getting the 2nd bead of the tyre off is because you actually took that tyre off the wrong way round. The wheel well is shallower on the back of those rims (most older landy rims are the same).
Thirdly, angle iron smacked into the bead is not a good way of removing the bead of any tyre. Yes its effective, however the damage it can do to the bead wire and its casing can lead to serious tyre failure, Its not always visual damage either as it can actually snap the bead wire without you knowing. The tool pictured on page 2 of this thread is what I use on a daily basis.
And 1 final piece of advice to anyone checking for something stuck through the tyre....do it with a rag or something of such like, the last thing anyone wants is to find a nail/super sharp thorn or anything else for that matter with the back of your hand, it bloody hurts. Or it could be something more sinister, i've found syringe needles on more than one occasion.
Glad to hear you got them sorted though bud, and they must be some of the biggest tyre levers i've ever seen, mine are smaller than that and I fit combine tyres, lol.
Firstly, a thorn would easily go through, you'd be amazed at how sharp those buggers can be. Also make sure you don't just check the inside but the out aswell as sometimes the offending article can be in the tread and only poke through when its driven on to wiggle it through.
Secondly, the reason you had so much trouble getting the 2nd bead of the tyre off is because you actually took that tyre off the wrong way round. The wheel well is shallower on the back of those rims (most older landy rims are the same).
Thirdly, angle iron smacked into the bead is not a good way of removing the bead of any tyre. Yes its effective, however the damage it can do to the bead wire and its casing can lead to serious tyre failure, Its not always visual damage either as it can actually snap the bead wire without you knowing. The tool pictured on page 2 of this thread is what I use on a daily basis.
And 1 final piece of advice to anyone checking for something stuck through the tyre....do it with a rag or something of such like, the last thing anyone wants is to find a nail/super sharp thorn or anything else for that matter with the back of your hand, it bloody hurts. Or it could be something more sinister, i've found syringe needles on more than one occasion.
Glad to hear you got them sorted though bud, and they must be some of the biggest tyre levers i've ever seen, mine are smaller than that and I fit combine tyres, lol.
Locky1978
Active Member
I must admit I've never had any of my landy tyres balanced. Never had any ill effects from it either. I was always surprised such a large tyre isn't way off balance, but they're fine upto 55 which is where I roughly max out.
Neither tyre fitters nor 4x4 place balanced them either when I had them fitted.
Locky1978
Active Member
Thanks Mark!! Some good pointers there. Especially about taking the tyre off the wrong side of the rim to start with.
Oh yeah they're 36" levers. I thought leverage would be my friend but to be honest I wish I bought better quality shorter ones. The ones I have are a bit flexible to say the least. They don't spring back either. Cheap sealey ones.
Turboman
Mab An Gov
Agree, a blackthorn can be as hard as a steel nail, often seen them go through tyres, my favourite was when we found one embedded in the glass of a tractor window after hedge cutting
Ive seen both thorns and nails embedded in tyres, three inch nail can get stuck in the lug of a tractor tyre so it is barely visible, but as you say, once rolling will quickly puncture the tube again.
