Locky1978 · Feb 25, 2014

Hi all.
I'm getting a bit tired of paying people to remove and refit my tyres when I'm getting tube punctures. 6 in just as many weeks.
I've bought a log splitter on the bay with the intention of making it into a bead breaker.

What do you think my chances are of getting Michelin 7.50 10 plys off of standard rims with tyre levers?

bushwwacker · Feb 25, 2014

I've thought the same, sledge hammer to break the bead and a set of melco tyre levers.

Pikey · Feb 25, 2014

Hi lift jack to break the bead then a pair of decent tyre levers to get the tyre off.

See here.

http://www.landyzone.co.uk/lz/f7/tyres-removal-made-easy-73442.html

Pikey · Feb 25, 2014

bushwwacker said:
I've thought the same, sledge hammer to break the bead and a set of melco tyre levers.

SOunds goods here's the step by step guide.

Step1 Hit bouncy rubber tyre with big heavy hammer.
Step 2 watch big heavy hammer rebounnnnnnnnn
Step 3 Wake up in Intensive care....

:crazy:

the_wolf · Feb 25, 2014

You do know that the actual manual machine for removing tyres really doesn't cost that much. Think I've seen them in the machine mart or screwfix catalogue for like 70 quid. Lot cheaper and easier than whacking it with a sledgehammer

Pikey · Feb 25, 2014

the_wolf said:
You do know that the actual manual machine for removing tyres really doesn't cost that much. Think I've seen them in the machine mart or screwfix catalogue for like 70 quid. Lot cheaper and easier than whacking it with a sledgehammer

Most of em won't touch a Landy wheel & Tyre..

the_wolf · Feb 25, 2014

To be honest I think i would rather just pay someone to do it than risk the OPs method lol.

Or better yet I would buy half decent inner tubes there weren't prone to puncturing

ratty · Feb 25, 2014

the_wolf said:
To be honest I think i would rather just pay someone to do it than risk the OPs method lol.

Or better yet I would buy half decent inner tubes there weren't prone to puncturing

We took some tyres off some rims down the Bristol and West show last year with the aid or a hi-lift and a couple of pry bars. There are some pics knocking about somewhere. I believe that all involved or in close proximity are still alive and well.

SuperMark · Feb 25, 2014

Locky1978 said:
Hi all.
I'm getting a bit tired of paying people to remove and refit my tyres when I'm getting tube punctures. 6 in just as many weeks.
I've bought a log splitter on the bay with the intention of making it into a bead breaker.

What do you think my chances are of getting Michelin 7.50 10 plys off of standard rims with tyre levers?

No problem at all, that size tyre is quite flexible in the side wall so will come off easily with a pair of levers. The worst bit about michelins is the bead tends to flop upwards and can be a pain, its hard to describe but i'm sure you'll see what I mean. Also, just remember that some landrover rims are backwards

easye1 · Feb 25, 2014

ohh done that thing back in the days by using a putlock, flat end on tyre next to edge of rim, then drive up the putlock (without falling off)
good dollops of fairy liquid & water with a big brush, a big fecking mallet/hamer and or some good tyre levers.
oh.....take the valve core out first eh

must have done hundreds that way...
but never had freely available bead breakers then..

tried doing a landie wheel the other year - I done it, but nearly killed this old git..

Turboman · Feb 25, 2014

ratty said:
and well.

Izzat physically or mentally? :crazy:

Traditional way to break the bead on tractor tyres was to let the wheel hub down off the jack onto the wheel laid on its side.

Locky1978 · Feb 25, 2014

Right I'll let you know how this goes then. I've ordered an 8 ton hydraulic log splitter.

I tried the high lift method but I couldn't get the bead to break. Back of the car wasn't heavy enough heh. I didn't try hitting it though.
I've been using michelin tubes but I've either been really unfortunate with the punctures. Or I'm thinking more likely there is some blasting grit caught between the two halves of the rim. I had the rims grit blasted recently, thats when the punctures started.

bushwwacker · Feb 25, 2014

easye1 said:
ohh done that thing back in the days by using a putlock, flat end on tyre next to edge of rim, then drive up the putlock (without falling off)
good dollops of fairy liquid & water with a big brush, a big fecking mallet/hamer and or some good tyre levers.
oh.....take the valve core out first eh

must have done hundreds that way...
but never had freely available bead breakers then..

tried doing a landie wheel the other year - I done it, but nearly killed this old git..

Putlog!

Were you taking wagon tyres off!?

timtheenchanteruk · Feb 26, 2014

Why are the tubes going? are they tubed rims running "tubeless" tubes?
Tubed rims have a fatter valve neck than tubes for retrofitting to a tubeless rims, so you need an adaptor for the valve or they rub on the shoulder and puncture.
Id give the inside of the rim a rub down and make sure theres no loose rust in there.

Locky1978 · Feb 26, 2014

I'm using Michelin xzl tyres which say tube or tubeless on the rim.
Also I made sure I fitted the valve stem adaptors.
I'm thinking it may be grit stuck in between the two halves of the rim on the inside as I recently had them grit blasted and I painted them. it's always tiny pinhole leaks in the tube. It's not something I would have thought about checking when painting.

greyhair · Feb 26, 2014

Pikey said:
SOunds goods here's the step by step guide.

Step1 Hit bouncy rubber tyre with big heavy hammer.
Step 2 watch big heavy hammer rebounnnnnnnnn
Step 3 Wake up in Intensive care.... :crazy:

LOL sounds like a bad idea

ebbadger · Feb 26, 2014

6 punctures in 6 weeks?? what u doing??? its normally a simple job to break the bead with a hi-lift under the front bumper (engine is pretty heavy

) i'd be looking if there was a reason for so many punctures.... think my last flat was four years ago when a valve blew in half....

cheers steve

Turboman · Feb 26, 2014

ebbadger said:
6 punctures in 6 weeks?? what u doing??? its normally a simple job to break the bead with a hi-lift under the front bumper (engine is pretty heavy ) i'd be looking if there was a reason for so many punctures.... think my last flat was four years ago when a valve blew in half....

cheers steve

Like he says, I guess there is some grit inside the tyre casing which is puncturing the tubes.

I get about two punctures a year average, but that's with the landy, car, tractor and two trailers, quite a lot of tyres.

3.5 efi · Feb 26, 2014

Pikey said:
SOunds goods here's the step by step guide.

Step1 Hit bouncy rubber tyre with big heavy hammer.
Step 2 watch big heavy hammer rebounnnnnnnnn
Step 3 Wake up in Intensive care.... :crazy:

you may laugh but that's how the tyre men do it with truck tyres. they drive a piece of angle iron between the bead and the rim.

ratty · Feb 26, 2014

3.5 efi said:
you may laugh but that's how the tyre men do it with truck tyres. they drive a piece of angle iron between the bead and the rim.

I've always used one of these and so have the mobile tyre guys that have come out to me in the past.

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