This is it. Speed is the least important factor in getting around the country quickly. 60-65 in my Sprinter gets me around the country dead in line with sat Nav estimates.
I think you will find that the sat nav updates estimated time of arrival according to the speed you drive at. : )
 
I think you will find that the sat nav updates estimated time of arrival according to the speed you drive at. : )

I work on the time mine says when I start the journey............then it is GAME ON.....I always beat it..........LOL.

PS , Mine does NOT allow for traffic congestion....

Cheers
 
This is it. Speed is the least important factor in getting around the country quickly. 60-65 in my Sprinter gets me around the country dead in line with sat Nav estimates.

Guess it depends on the age of the sprinter - but the new ones cruise quite happily somewhere significantly above the motorway speed limit (presumably designed for the autobahns)

Yes 60-70 makes little difference. But 40-70 does.

And the idiots driving through the lanes at 30mph where 60 would be safe (emphasis on "where it would be safe")... 5 miles at 30 takes 10 minutes. 5 miles at 60 takes 5 minutes. Half the time.
 
I have done 28,00 miles in my mondeo since I bought it in April. Plus a few thousand more in hire cars, and a few more in landrovers. And that is an average annual mileage over the last 25 years for me. :D
Plus the annual mileage that I cover every year in boats, although that is usually calculated in hours. Plus some on planes most years.
I used to drive regularly to Scotland, 735 miles to MILs from Cornwall. Best time for the trip under 12 hours, usual time 14-16 hours, with 2 stops. Varies according to weather and traffic conditions.
First week if next year, I will be straight in with a 1,000 mile return trip to Cornwall, including local mileage while I was there.

Reckon you can keep up, young un ?:p:D

The speed you drive makes little difference on the long haul. A steady 70mph for 10 hours, you will cover 700 miles. I often see Jack the Lad fly past on the motorway at over 100 mph, risking their lives, and burning a lot of fuel. And often, I see them in services 4 hours later, because they couldn't maintain concentration at that speed for long.
And equally often, I am passed by similar on A roads, usually in a suicidal overtaking manouevre. And usually you end up on their bumper at the next roundabout.
They have burned all that fuel to gain 5 metres in actual road distance.:)

I have to admit i'm not normally *that* worried abot burning a bit of extra fuel. Guess it comes from previous years driving company cars where i wasnt paying for the fuel, but where my time was under a lot of pressure. I used to do around 25000 miles per year. And i'll admit that back then a fair amount of it was at 90+ on the motorway. When i quit that job the mileage was nothing to do with it - the "on call" shifts were a large part of the issue.

On the occaisions I was driving vehicles with limiters the journeys noticeably took longer.

At the moment my mileage is down to around 15000. I actually miss travelling around the country, although still have to do it from time to time. Owning the company i perhaps care a bit more about fuel economy.

If i'm on the motoway in the D3 i tend to sit slightly above the speed limit.

When i drove to berlin a few years back i did have the XC90 on cruise control at 110 for a fair few miles. Dread to think how much fuel it used.
 
I'm a trucker and a series landrover driver so I'm on your side. I would rather you were going a bit slower than me in the truck so I can overtake you in less time ,so I'm not looking like an arse sitting in the middle lane in my truck as car drivers like to put it "taking 5 miles to overtake" . The most irritating people to a truck are people doing 54 in the slow lane and then doing 56 as you try to pull past and then sitting under your cab at 54-55 again when you've had to pull back in behind them.( we cannot go any faster than 56 cos of the limiter )
 
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I got pulled over today for going too slow on the motorway, speed was 45 to 50 as I wasn't in a hurry and trying to conserve diesel, . . .


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I'm a trucker and a series landrover driver so I'm on your side. I would rather you were going a bit slower than me in the truck so I can overtake you in less time ,so I'm not looking like an arse sitting in the middle lane in my truck as car drivers like to put it "taking 5 miles to overtake" . The most irritating people to a truck are people doing 54 in the slow lane and then doing 56 as you try to pull past and then sitting under your cab at 54-55 again when you've had to pull back in behind them.
So in short I think you're right
 
I have done 28,00 miles in my mondeo since I bought it in April. Plus a few thousand more in hire cars, and a few more in landrovers. And that is an average annual mileage over the last 25 years for me. :D
Plus the annual mileage that I cover every year in boats, although that is usually calculated in hours. Plus some on planes most years.
I used to drive regularly to Scotland, 735 miles to MILs from Cornwall. Best time for the trip under 12 hours, usual time 14-16 hours, with 2 stops. Varies according to weather and traffic conditions.
First week if next year, I will be straight in with a 1,000 mile return trip to Cornwall, including local mileage while I was there.

Reckon you can keep up, young un ?:p:D

The speed you drive makes little difference on the long haul. A steady 70mph for 10 hours, you will cover 700 miles. I often see Jack the Lad fly past on the motorway at over 100 mph, risking their lives, and burning a lot of fuel. And often, I see them in services 4 hours later, because they couldn't maintain concentration at that speed for long.
And equally often, I am passed by similar on A roads, usually in a suicidal overtaking manouevre. And usually you end up on their bumper at the next roundabout.
They have burned all that fuel to gain 5 metres in actual road distance.:)
 
I have got to agree whith turboman on that when we go to are house (home 2) 1250 miles straight off drive it seems that sat navs route all the same way so on the motorway autobahn ext you are forever seeing the same vehicles on one trip we had the same car overtaking us 11 times must have been burning a lot of fuel or at higher speeds you need the loo more often we nearly all ways see them again when we hit the alps
 
It's about 430 miles from my house To my parents, if I do an indicated 70 where I can, it's about 8 hours, if I do an indicated 80 where road conditions let me it's about 7 hours.
That's with the same breaks, and note over 130 miles is on roads where you are lucky to reach 50 mph.
 
Guess it depends on the age of the sprinter - but the new ones cruise quite happily somewhere significantly above the motorway speed limit (presumably designed for the autobahns)

Yes 60-70 makes little difference. But 40-70 does.

And the idiots driving through the lanes at 30mph where 60 would be safe (emphasis on "where it would be safe")... 5 miles at 30 takes 10 minutes. 5 miles at 60 takes 5 minutes. Half the time.
The maths might work like that but reality doesn't as you get faster. The guy who thinks he's nominally doing 90mph should be shaving a third off his journey time compared to 60 but in reality he's just rushing to the next congested area, when the slower traffic will catch up and it all starts again, like a safety car in a race. That's why older sat navs without live traffic updating still gave good estimates. Bike magazine took a cruiser and a hot sportsbike and told the riders to have a fun afternoon however they liked, average speed for both was 63mph, even though the sportsbike rider thought he was 'on one'. However fast you think you're going on the motorway, I guarantee your average speed will be mid sixties at most (unless its 4am).
 
It's about 430 miles from my house To my parents, if I do an indicated 70 where I can, it's about 8 hours, if I do an indicated 80 where road conditions let me it's about 7 hours.
That's with the same breaks, and note over 130 miles is on roads where you are lucky to reach 50 mph.

When I used to drive to Scotland a lot, Cornwall to Perth usually went pretty well.
Once I hit the A9 after Perth, average speed dropped dramatically. And when I turned off the A9 at Carrbridge the last 50 miles could be snail paced, especially if it was misty.
 
With you on all of that. I like slow and steady, plenty of braking distance, gentle acceleration to save on fuel, and help the planet. And that is in any vehicle.

Personally I would like to see top speed limiters on all vehicles, instead of increasing the speed of trucks. Maximum legal speed in UK is 70mph. 75mph limiter would reduce accidents massively, and save huge amounts of fuel.
And I would favour concealed speed traps in towns and villages, as in France. They would actually deter speeding, as opposed to speed cameras that are painted yellow, so they catch few.

It has got to be much better to arrive ten minutes later, rather than end up in the paraplegic ward ten minutes faster.
I agree with you absolutely im the same
 
The trouble is, you don't own the road, its for everyone, and on out busy, somewhat overcrowded roads, its far safer to be sat at 50 ish than trying to hurtle a defender at 75 +mph through heavy motorway traffic. I've done both, and know which one I can do everyday.

Did you own said defender? If you are happy to drive one at 75mph for that distance, id say you certainly don't drive it every single day. Mine would be roaring so loudly you wouldn't be able to hear yourself think, let alone be able to keep half an ear to the mechanical side of things. My economy drops drastically (to around 20-21) when driven hard like that on the occasions I have been in a mad, stressed rush, from the usual and acceptable 26-30 mpg. When used every single day, this is significant.

I guess were coming from different mindsets entirely.

As stated before, I don't know ANYONE that drives a defender everyday that would tell me the same as you have, they just aren't geared high enough to be comfortable at that speed for any significant length of time.
The last ninety I had would do 95 when the limiter cut in. It would comfortably do 70-75. 90+ was not a great idea.
 

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