Datatek
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Not to mention 2.25 tonnes of kinetic energy
Passing MoT Test means nothing other than it meets minimum standard (even that isn't a guarantee). Normal road tyres will be your biggest problem.
StuckAgainSteve
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Come off it - the only thing holding any Range Rover back off road is the wheels and tyres fitted, compare any Rangie to a standard series Landy off road, the Range Rover will murder it in most situations. The L322 and L405 have the most wheel articulation of any production road car. Yes the lack of lockers is an issue but they are tremendous off-roaders - even the P38 - as long as you don't get it wet!
StuckAgainSteve
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Why would you expect standard road tyres to work well in the snow on a 2+ tonne car with a high centre of gravity?
I've tried my hardest to get stuck in the snow in my P38 with General Grabber ATs - I've got up stupidly steep hills - it's practically unstoppable.
Datatek
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StuckAgainSteve
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That's the problem, it just doesn't stop
I can honestly say I've never had a problem stopping in the snow, yes the ABS is over-sensitive but it pulls up straight and true in a predictable manner.
One of the worst cars I've ever driven in the snow was a series 2A Landie, undrivable in 4WD (wouldn't steer!) and barely better in 2WD - it did have mud tyres fitted which would not work well in snow.
SpacePig
New Member
I have been in parts of Japan where it snow 30 to 70cm per night with my P38 fitted with Summer Tires and just a pair of snow chains that I fitted when the snow on the road in front of me was touching the chassis of the car.
I drove like a maniac climbing uncleaned road and everything went fine. Sure however that downhill and breaking need some anticipation, but nope the P38 behave like any other 4x4 car that I ever tested for magazines or that I owned (A6 Quattro, Sub...).
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gfromleeds
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Ive been haveing alot of fun in the snow
Going up hills where others are strugeling to get down .just for the **** take
Kicking the back out on snow covered roundabouts
Having the old bill just sit and watch cos they couldnt catch me even if they tryed
Ahh makes me feel young again
Going up hills where others are strugeling to get down .just for the **** take
Kicking the back out on snow covered roundabouts
Having the old bill just sit and watch cos they couldnt catch me even if they tryed
Ahh makes me feel young again
Old Bill don't need to catch you any more. They can just jot down your number plate and send the points and fine to your address. It is then up to you to prove that it wasn't you/your car that they spotted.
StuckAgainSteve
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Yeah but that's in a court. Courts seem to be circumvented these days. It's guilt because some copper thinks you are these days. Pay £60.00 now or else seems to have taken over. Spot fines are illegal according to a law still on the books but the government don't see it that way.
Yeah but that's in a court. Courts seem to be circumvented these days. It's guilt because some copper thinks you are these days. Pay £60.00 now or else seems to have taken over. Spot fines are illegal according to a law still on the books but the government don't see it that way.
A chap I know was given 6 points on his licence because the cop behind him decided he must've been speeding as his car (a TVR) was loud and pulled away from the junction faster than the cop did. When asked for evidence the courts told him the police didn't need any more evidence than the officers word as a profession and expert. The onus was on the accused to prove he wasn't speeding.
Traffic court. The cops are deemed to be expert witnesses. Law unto themselves. Just like if you fight a speeding ticket and found innocent, you cannot claim back your legal costs. We've taken a step back to the days of debtors prison where you had to pay for your stay in prison, if you was found innocent of any crime and couldn't afford your bill, back in prison. T'was the Yanks who taught us that if someone is innocent, squash their prison debt.
I recognise there are 3 sides to every story and no doubt I got a slightly biased view of what happened. But when you see some of the evidence presented in traffic courts and how it does not apply to any legal standards yet still accepted as evidence, it doesn't seem as far fetched.
Things like a chap getting an instant ban for apparently doing 160MPH in a TD6 L322. The fact that vehicle will struggle to crack 120MPH didn't make the evidence void, the courts just said "well he must've been doing that then" and banned him anyway. I don't doubt he was likely to have been over the 70 limit, but when the evidence is flawed you can't just say "close enough" and use it anyway.
This country has a strange legal system that needs gutting and starting fresh.
Wonder how long it will be before you can get a spot fine for looking like you may commit an offence?
The day that happens I am knackered. When I grow out my beard I look very Islamic Extremist.
