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Basically an artist submitted his work to an exhibition, but forgot
the plinth and wooden support, so submitted it as a seperate item.
The judges decided that they thought the second "piece of work" was
better so just the plinth and wooden support were exhibited!

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"Ian Rawlings" <news05@tarcus.org.uk> wrote in message
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> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/southern_counties/5081744.stm
>
> Basically an artist submitted his work to an exhibition, but forgot
> the plinth and wooden support, so submitted it as a seperate item.
> The judges decided that they thought the second "piece of work" was
> better so just the plinth and wooden support were exhibited!
>

Which really just goes to prove (if indeed proof were required!) that the
pretentious bunch of art luvvy twits really don't know **** from shinola.


 
On 2006-06-15, Steve <steve@DELETEMEFIRSTzord.co.uk> wrote:

> Which really just goes to prove (if indeed proof were required!) that the
> pretentious bunch of art luvvy twits really don't know **** from shinola.

Miserable git ;-)

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On Thu, 15 Jun 2006 12:01:23 +0100, Ian Rawlings
<news05@tarcus.org.uk> wrote:

>On 2006-06-15, Steve <steve@DELETEMEFIRSTzord.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> Which really just goes to prove (if indeed proof were required!) that the
>> pretentious bunch of art luvvy twits really don't know **** from shinola.
>
>Miserable git ;-)
Accurate miserable git ;-)
 
On 2006-06-15, rads <radsxxunspamxx@xxunspamxxdavidradley.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:

> Accurate miserable git ;-)

Not really, art is about appreciating a thing just for what it is, I
personally find the differentials in my pinz to be things of beauty
and have a picture of one that I'm not averse to gazing at, because I
just like what it is, what it does, the way it works and the way it
looks (they're not like normal diffs at all). I don't think this make
me a pretentious git.

I actually agreed with the judges in this case, the wooden mount and
plinth looked better than the actual piece itself, especially with the
contrast in materials, the same way a piece of steel and a piece of
brass will often look good together. I think it's more to do with the
uninspiring original piece though ;-) I wouldn't want either of them
in my home, but if I had to have, I'd go for just the plinth and mount!

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On or around Thu, 15 Jun 2006 13:03:16 +0100, Ian Rawlings
<news05@tarcus.org.uk> enlightened us thusly:

>On 2006-06-15, rads <radsxxunspamxx@xxunspamxxdavidradley.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> Accurate miserable git ;-)
>
>Not really, art is about appreciating a thing just for what it is, I
>personally find the differentials in my pinz to be things of beauty
>and have a picture of one that I'm not averse to gazing at, because I
>just like what it is, what it does, the way it works and the way it
>looks (they're not like normal diffs at all). I don't think this make
>me a pretentious git.


The differential I was most impressed by is in the transfer box of the 4x4
sierra: it's a basic epicyclic gear set, being used as a diff and
automatically doing 66:33 torque split. Having seen it done, I can see how
it works... but some clever bastard thought of it in the first place.
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On Thu, 15 Jun 2006 13:03:16 +0100, Ian Rawlings
<news05@tarcus.org.uk> wrote:

>Not really, art is about appreciating a thing just for what it is

Appreciate me just for what I am... :)

I'm with you on the plinth and mount, though.

Is it true that the fire bucket in the Tate once won an award I
wonder?


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On Thu, 15 Jun 2006 13:03:16 +0100, Ian Rawlings
<news05@tarcus.org.uk> wrote:

>On 2006-06-15, rads <radsxxunspamxx@xxunspamxxdavidradley.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> Accurate miserable git ;-)
>
>Not really, art is about appreciating a thing just for what it is,
<snip>

And surely that is the point here.
"What it is ", in this case, is a structure to support the actual
"art". If you want to display a beautifully designed and engineered
support structure put a human spine on display, but again, I would
struggle with defining it as "art".

Admire the engineering of your diff by all means, but please don't
hang it on the wall of a gallery. I can guarantee that the provision
of artistic enjoyment was low on the priority of the design engineer.

David
Gearbox Design Engineer
 
On 2006-06-15, Austin Shackles <austinNOSPAM@ddol-las.net> wrote:

> The differential I was most impressed by is in the transfer box of the 4x4
> sierra: it's a basic epicyclic gear set, being used as a diff and
> automatically doing 66:33 torque split. Having seen it done, I can see how
> it works... but some clever bastard thought of it in the first place.

Here's an article that shows some of the pinz diff workings, it took a
while before I could figure out how it works, only really having had
any dealings with the conventional land-rover style diff.

http://home.comcast.net/~hillmanpinz/EX-II.html

I ought to whip mine apart, get a decent shot and frame it on the wall ;-)

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On 2006-06-15, Mother <"@ {mother} @"@101fc.net> wrote:

> On Thu, 15 Jun 2006 13:03:16 +0100, Ian Rawlings
><news05@tarcus.org.uk> wrote:
>
>>Not really, art is about appreciating a thing just for what it is
>
> Appreciate me just for what I am... :)

Wot, a sandal-wearing geek with a grease fetish?

I don't think you're alone in here though, personally I avoid the
sandals as it means I have to cut my toenails!

> Is it true that the fire bucket in the Tate once won an award I
> wonder?

Must be, it was printed in the Daily Mail..

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On 2006-06-15, rads <radsxxunspamxx@xxunspamxxdavidradley.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:

> "What it is ", in this case, is a structure to support the actual
> "art".

No, that's what it does, the point about it and about me waffling on
about my luvverly diff was that they both have appeal despite their
actual function, to some at any rate ;-)

> If you want to display a beautifully designed and engineered support
> structure put a human spine on display, but again, I would struggle
> with defining it as "art".

The term "art" ****es me off anyway, but you've almost got the gist of
what I'm saying, if you can admire the *form* of the human spine
without thinking about the function of it.

> Gearbox Design Engineer

You should put on your own exhibition ;-)

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"Ian Rawlings" <news05@tarcus.org.uk> wrote in message
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> On 2006-06-15, rads <radsxxunspamxx@xxunspamxxdavidradley.freeserve.co.uk>
wrote:
>
> > Accurate miserable git ;-)
>
> Not really, art is about appreciating a thing just for what it is, I
> personally find the differentials in my pinz to be things of beauty
> and have a picture of one that I'm not averse to gazing at, because I
> just like what it is, what it does, the way it works and the way it
> looks (they're not like normal diffs at all). I don't think this make
> me a pretentious git.
>
> I actually agreed with the judges in this case, the wooden mount and
> plinth looked better than the actual piece itself, especially with the
> contrast in materials, the same way a piece of steel and a piece of
> brass will often look good together. I think it's more to do with the
> uninspiring original piece though ;-) I wouldn't want either of them
> in my home, but if I had to have, I'd go for just the plinth and mount!
>

Perhaps I'll curl one down on a paper plate and stick a little flag in it.
I wonder if the "judges" will find the unique little twirly point I created
on the top as I crimped off good enough to earn me the turner prize? ;-)

Steve


 
On 2006-06-15, Steve <steve@DELETEMEFIRSTzord.co.uk> wrote:

> Perhaps I'll curl one down on a paper plate and stick a little flag in it.
> I wonder if the "judges" will find the unique little twirly point I created
> on the top as I crimped off good enough to earn me the turner prize? ;-)

I think you're getting confused with the Turder prize..

Don't forget though that one "artist" canned his own **** and sold it,
fetched high prices too, can't remember who it was. How's that for
easy money.

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On Thu, 15 Jun 2006 11:22:25 +0100, Ian Rawlings
<news05@tarcus.org.uk> scribbled the following nonsense:

>http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/southern_counties/5081744.stm
>
>Basically an artist submitted his work to an exhibition, but forgot
>the plinth and wooden support, so submitted it as a seperate item.
>The judges decided that they thought the second "piece of work" was
>better so just the plinth and wooden support were exhibited!

okay, try this

http://tinyurl.com/ryrmk
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Simon Isaacs

"Bad officials are elected by good citizens who do not vote"
George Jean Nathan (1882-1955)

ROT13 me....
 
On Thu, 15 Jun 2006 15:37:48 +0100, Ian Rawlings
<news05@tarcus.org.uk> wrote:

>> Appreciate me just for what I am... :)
>
>Wot, a sandal-wearing geek with a grease fetish?

I think you must have been my first wife, reincarnated, obviously.


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On 2006-06-15, Simon Isaacs <crgreobebhtu4k4@ogbcrajbeyq.pbz> wrote:

> okay, try this
>
> http://tinyurl.com/ryrmk

I have to confess that I'm struggling to see the relevance of that to
anything in particular..

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On 2006-06-15, Mother <"@ {mother} @"@101fc.net> wrote:

What, munging your email addresses? ISTR you moaning at people in the
past for not being man enough to deal with spam ;-)

> On Thu, 15 Jun 2006 15:37:48 +0100, Ian Rawlings
> <news05@tarcus.org.uk> wrote:
>
>> Wot, a sandal-wearing geek with a grease fetish?
>
> I think you must have been my first wife, reincarnated, obviously.

Just bear in mind that grease and rubber don't always work well
together..

Yer new website looks interesting, any more details yet?

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On Thu, 15 Jun 2006 23:26:49 +0100, Ian Rawlings
<news05@tarcus.org.uk> wrote:

>Just bear in mind that grease and rubber don't always work well
>together..

Indeed - Enter Alex (not literally, though...)

>Yer new website looks interesting, any more details yet?

Doing the CMS at present, something should be launched over the next
few days...


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On Fri, 16 Jun 2006 09:39:33 +0100, Mother <"@ {mother} @"@101fc.net>
wrote:

>On Thu, 15 Jun 2006 23:26:49 +0100, Ian Rawlings
><news05@tarcus.org.uk> wrote:
>
>>Just bear in mind that grease and rubber don't always work well
>>together..
>
>Indeed - Enter Alex (not literally, though...)
>

Should always use a water based lubricant with rubber.........

Alex
 
Alex <nospam.alex@cbmsys.co.uk> wrote:

> On Fri, 16 Jun 2006 09:39:33 +0100, Mother <"@ {mother} @"@101fc.net>
> wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 15 Jun 2006 23:26:49 +0100, Ian Rawlings
>> <news05@tarcus.org.uk> wrote:
>>
>>> Just bear in mind that grease and rubber don't always work well
>>> together..
>>
>> Indeed - Enter Alex (not literally, though...)
>>
>
> Should always use a water based lubricant with rubber.........

KY jelly?

or Vetlube if you want bulk.

nigelH



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