If you have a 1990's Rangie don't under any circumstances look at the link
below. It may shatter any illusion you have of how good your car us
underneath.

I've started to explore here following accident damage which also not only
meant I had to replace the door and wing but all the other horrors that lurk
below.

On the bright side...I'm not paying, the other guys Insuarance is. As I'm
having to provide the labourbut hey ho... apart from the Door and wing alot
of this would have been due for repair anyway so looks like the guy did me a
favour. I can now replace the likes of the inner wing and rear aches in the
process.

Anyway enough chat... now for the dirty pictures..
http://www.lrproject.com/alfierevamp/set1/index.html

Lee D

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"Lee_D" <lee@lrproject.com> wrote in message news:_LG1d.638$2h1.49@newsfe1-gui.ntli.net...
> If you have a 1990's Rangie don't under any circumstances look at the link
> below. It may shatter any illusion you have of how good your car us
> underneath.
>
> I've started to explore here following accident damage which also not only
> meant I had to replace the door and wing but all the other horrors that lurk
> below.
>
> On the bright side...I'm not paying, the other guys Insuarance is. As I'm
> having to provide the labourbut hey ho... apart from the Door and wing alot
> of this would have been due for repair anyway so looks like the guy did me a
> favour. I can now replace the likes of the inner wing and rear aches in the
> process.
>
> Anyway enough chat... now for the dirty pictures..
> http://www.lrproject.com/alfierevamp/set1/index.html
>
> Lee D
>
> --
>
> www.lrproject.com
>
> Workshop photos from Landrover repairs
> & other such tinkerings.
> Home of Percy the Jag powered Landrover
>
>

OMG!!!! My (un-named) beast arrives in a few days & is older than yours!! I think an apt name may be
'Ferrous Oxide' Oh well, in for a penny, in for a pound!

Nige

This image looks familiar!!!

http://www.lrproject.com/alfierevamp/set1/images/000_0046.JPG

This one is from my 87 RR... I agree.. just dont start looking!!!
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/j.folesbury/rangie_arch/images/DSCF1403.JPG

Mark.

"mark solesbury" <mark_solesbury@SPAMlineone.net> wrote in message
news:14I1d.1232$8u5.695@newsfe2-win.ntli.net...
> This image looks familiar!!!
>
> http://www.lrproject.com/alfierevamp/set1/images/000_0046.JPG
>
> This one is from my 87 RR... I agree.. just dont start looking!!!
> http://homepage.ntlworld.com/j.folesbury/rangie_arch/images/DSCF1403.JPG
>
> Mark.

Owwwee!

Did you fix it?

I need to get the rear wing off as the pannel could do with replacing too
due to ally corrosion. Given the effort I'm going to I don't want to be
spraying it for it to bubble up again in 18 months time.

Many people may be questioning my sanity but I'm in not ready to spen a wad
on an upgrade and the settlement may get me a tidy motor now but in 5 to 8
years it would be a worthless motor not worth repairing.. At least the
Rangie will be going still and if needs be repairable on a rolling basis.
And what more I know the car .. It's like it becomes a part of you after a
while... something to do with skinned knuckles and wleding burns I expect.

Lee D

Lee_D wrote:
> If you have a 1990's Rangie don't under any circumstances look at the link
> below. It may shatter any illusion you have of how good your car us
> underneath.
>
> I've started to explore here following accident damage which also not only
> meant I had to replace the door and wing but all the other horrors that lurk
> below.
>
> On the bright side...I'm not paying, the other guys Insuarance is. As I'm
> having to provide the labourbut hey ho... apart from the Door and wing alot
> of this would have been due for repair anyway so looks like the guy did me a
> favour. I can now replace the likes of the inner wing and rear aches in the
> process.
>
> Anyway enough chat... now for the dirty pictures..
> http://www.lrproject.com/alfierevamp/set1/index.html
>
> Lee D
>

Nice pictures Lee. Has the RR had a hard life? My 88 model is only
just showing sill rust - admitedly the top tail gate is like a net
curtain and there are many cosmetic failings but not other rust.


As you can tell I still haven't found my sodding parts book. In your
researches for sill repair parts you haven't come across any sort of
patching repairs for sills, have you? I have found a rust split in the
bottom of my outer sill below the driver's side B pillar and was
wondering about repeating the repairs done to my previous RRC but doing
muself this time. When the 'Y' reg RRC was welded the guy just cut
patches from a huge sheet of 2mm steel and whacked them on. I'd rather
weld an entire patch right along the sill so as to box it in in in one hit.

I'll find that parts list soem time after you have bought one!

BTW you may find that some of the water appearing in the driver and
passenger footwells - if this is happening - gets in through a plugged
corner formed where the outer footwell panel (i.e. to the right of the
driver's right foot) meets the vertical panel below the windscreen. I
only found this hole when I replaced the wiper moter and had to remove
the decker panel. There was the remains of some really hard and flaky
sealant around the holes but water coming down the windscreen was able
trickle through them and into the footwells with the inevitable consequence.

Rgds Richard


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"Richard Savage" <no@use.net> wrote in message
news:41475B0F.9000509@use.net...

> Nice pictures Lee. Has the RR had a hard life? My 88 model is only just
> showing sill rust - admitedly the top tail gate is like a net curtain and
> there are many cosmetic failings but not other rust.

Not a real hard life... to our knowledge anyway , We have had it since 1999.
It's not been undersealed or owt so I suppose it's been a little abused.
It's also had a couple of trips along Black rock sands and also several laps
of Cannock chase.. but on each occaions was given right good old clean...
more so down to the weather in Wales (extreme white water rafting meets
A5!). It's not really been pampered until now. Just running repairs,
perhaphs a case of you reap what you soe.

> As you can tell I still haven't found my sodding parts book. In your
> researches for sill repair parts you haven't come across any sort of
> patching repairs for sills, have you? I have found a rust split in the
> bottom of my outer sill below the driver's side B pillar and was wondering
> about repeating the repairs done to my previous RRC but doing muself this
> time. When the 'Y' reg RRC was welded the guy just cut patches from a
> huge sheet of 2mm steel and whacked them on. I'd rather weld an entire
> patch right along the sill so as to box it in in in one hit.
>
> I'll find that parts list soem time after you have bought one!

Always the way init!

> BTW you may find that some of the water appearing in the driver and
> passenger footwells - if this is happening - gets in through a plugged
> corner formed where the outer footwell panel (i.e. to the right of the
> driver's right foot) meets the vertical panel below the windscreen. I
> only found this hole when I replaced the wiper moter and had to remove the
> decker panel. There was the remains of some really hard and flaky sealant
> around the holes but water coming down the windscreen was able trickle
> through them and into the footwells with the inevitable consequence.
>
> Rgds Richard

I've been trying to avoid removing the decker pannel..... Once the wings
undone is it just the row of screw under the bonnet? Seems I'm going to be
doing the full hit so may as well get it all right. The other Inner wing
will need doing before it gets near a spray gun, I've a vision of it on the
Range Rover register display one day... If I join... and go in it... I
really need a low loader as I'd love to take them all to Shows.

$

Lee D

"Richard Savage" <no@use.net> wrote in message
news:41475B0F.9000509@use.net...

> In your researches for sill repair parts you haven't come across any sort
> of patching repairs for sills, have you?

One of these sir? Suits you sir oooooooh!

http://makeashorterlink.com/?Y3C421B49

Paddocks £16.50 plus vare and tare.

Lee D
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Home of Percy the Jag powered Landrover

On Tue, 14 Sep 2004 18:29:14 GMT, "Lee_D" <lee@lrproject.com> wrote:

>If you have a 1990's Rangie don't under any circumstances look at the link
>below. It may shatter any illusion you have of how good your car us
>underneath.
>
>I've started to explore here following accident damage which also not only
>meant I had to replace the door and wing but all the other horrors that lurk
>below.
>
>On the bright side...I'm not paying, the other guys Insuarance is. As I'm
>having to provide the labourbut hey ho... apart from the Door and wing alot
>of this would have been due for repair anyway so looks like the guy did me a
>favour. I can now replace the likes of the inner wing and rear aches in the
>process.
>

Carefull, the insurance company only pays for repairs caused by the
damage, not your long-term rot problems......

Alex

"Alex" <nospam.alex@cbmsys.co.uk> wrote in message
news:mqsek0deb3e0bon0nh36vkg2gq8rvlaaho@4ax.com...

>
> Carefull, the insurance company only pays for repairs caused by the
> damage, not your long-term rot problems......
>
> Alex

Yeah and as they said the cars a write off so technically they aint paying
for anything other than my recompense so given the cars mine to do with what
I want then what I spend the payout on in this case is irrelevant iyswim.
They did say I'd have to sort out the salvage... which is what I'm doing

Not a clue if it'll get a Cat d marker yet but if it does it will be check
by the VI anyway so no great loss as it's not going anywhere.

Everyones a winner..ish.

Lee D

Lee

Lee_D wrote:

>Always the way init!
>
>

Found the parts book now and have tried to send you an email. If you
don't receive it send me an email the bigfoot address redirects to the
one I'm using now so either is fine.

>I've been trying to avoid removing the decker pannel..... Once the wings
>undone is it just the row of screw under the bonnet?
>
Nope! Bonnet off. Row of self tappers along leading edge of Decker
Panel. Then two 10 mm bolts that pass through the inner lip of each
end to said panel into the tops of the wings. You can see the front
ones by looking back along the top of the wing towards the A post. The
back ones are total whotsits to reach - through the gap between the open
door and A pillar. They will be rusted solid. The captive nuts were
available as spares 390728 'Nut Plate'. Remove wiper arms etc. Then
use patented hinge extensions to force the hinges down as if compressed
by the bonnet. I use two lengths of spur shelf metal. You have to
bring the hinges down as you wiggle the Decker Panel forward. I've
never taken the wings off but have removed and refitted the Decker Panel
twice. If you do take it off seriously consider the state of you wiper
motor and whether you can bear to have to take it all off again.just to
replace the motor.

>Seems I'm going to be
>doing the full hit so may as well get it all right. The other Inner wing
>will need doing before it gets near a spray gun, I've a vision of it on the
>Range Rover register display one day... If I join... and go in it... I
>really need a low loader as I'd love to take them all to Shows.
>
>$
>
>Lee D
>
>
>
Thanks for the sill repair link.

Rgds Richard

>
>

Lee_D wrote:

>"Richard Savage" <no@use.net> wrote in message
>news:41475B0F.9000509@use.net...
>
>
>
>>In your researches for sill repair parts you haven't come across any sort
>>of patching repairs for sills, have you?
>>
>>
>
>One of these sir? Suits you sir oooooooh!
>
>http://makeashorterlink.com/?Y3C421B49
>
>Paddocks £16.50 plus vare and tare.
>
>Lee D
>
>
Lee,

can you post (or send me) the whole link? I can't get it to work

Rgds Richard

"Lee_D" <lee@lrproject.com> wrote in message
news:dUI1d.673$2h1.327@newsfe1-gui.ntli.net...
> "mark solesbury" <mark_solesbury@SPAMlineone.net> wrote in message
> news:14I1d.1232$8u5.695@newsfe2-win.ntli.net...
> > This image looks familiar!!!
> >
> > http://www.lrproject.com/alfierevamp/set1/images/000_0046.JPG
> >
> > This one is from my 87 RR... I agree.. just dont start looking!!!
> > http://homepage.ntlworld.com/j.folesbury/rangie_arch/images/DSCF1403.JPG
> >
> > Mark.
>
> Owwwee!
>
> Did you fix it?
>
Yep. By the look of things i bought the exact same panel from brookwells....

Is all nice and rust free now. Just dont ever look at the offside!!

mark.

Lol don't start me on the rust! My battery bay and rear door (just on the corner of the window guide have succumbed to rust. I smacked my seatbelt anchors...and I was showered in rust! Jigsawed them out and new panels. Thankfully the chassis is in very good nick, just some minor cosmetic problems that a bit of filler would sort with relative ease!

Have a gander! http://www.sounddomain.com/ride/2065908/2

L