monkfish24 · Apr 30, 2014

I noticed whilst reading through posts on here about shackles going through wind screens and not using shackles to join two strops together. well may I introduce to you all a solution?

I know that off roaders have cottoned on to the idea of using dyneema rather than wire rope, well you can replace the heavy, weak shackles with rope soft shackles like this

This is a 6mm (diameter of the rope) dyneema line spliced into a self locking, lightweight and easy to use shackle. It is rated to a breaking strain of 2 ton. I also have a 10mm shackle that is rated up to 5 ton!

Safe to use to join two strops and won't fly through the air like a metal shackle if the strop breaks!

Mr Noisy · Apr 30, 2014

You have my attention...

Thor1950 · Apr 30, 2014

they there are these...Tow Strap Cinch Bone Pilot Automotive Tow Strap BC-902

Bully Cinch Bone : Cabela's

monkfish24 · Apr 30, 2014

Mr Noisy said:
You have my attention...

Ha ha there is a video online of how to make them, I'd recommended using a metre and half or two metre line to splice one as the halve in length as you feed one half through the other to form the strong loop. Dyneema is readily available from chandlers and ebay, I've been using English braids in the picture shown and it was ok to work.

Normal knots and hitches can reduce the strength of a rope to almost a half but this method ensures full strength.

monkfish24 · Apr 30, 2014

Oh and after being put under strain the knot goes rock hard, hence why the tails are still on, once loaded up i will cut and heat seal the tails.

gemsdad · Apr 30, 2014

Thor1950 said:
they there are these...Tow Strap Cinch Bone Pilot Automotive Tow Strap BC-902

Bully Cinch Bone : Cabela's

how would those stop a shackle or that from flying through a windscreen if something snapped.

jacksta · Apr 30, 2014

Thor has a great educated point, showing how intelligent he is.
By using those cinch bone things there is no chance of a shackle going anywhere near any glass etc.
Instead you have a stainless dog bone type item flying toward you!

Adding to Monkfish, if you are using all synthetic (rather than wire) its a great idea. If you were broken down in the wilds you may be able to use it as a snare for rabbits?

gemsdad · Apr 30, 2014

jacksta said:
Thor has a great educated point, showing how intelligent he is.
By using those cinch bone things there is no chance of a shackle going anywhere near any glass etc.
Instead you have a stainless dog bone type item flying toward you!

Adding to Monkfish, if you are using all synthetic (rather than wire) its a great idea. If you were broken down in the wilds you may be able to use it as a snare for rabbits?

do i detect a touch of sarcasm there.

jacksta · Apr 30, 2014

Not towards Monkfish and his shackle idea.
Sorry to say though I am still in the dark ages with wire rope on both my front and rear winches.

gemsdad · Apr 30, 2014

jacksta said:
Not towards Monkfish and his shackle idea.
Sorry to say though I am still in the dark ages with wire rope on both my front and rear winches.

yes i realise who you meant ya daft bugger.

if that works for you then thats ok,but for someone to post something on here that is just as dangerous as a flying shackle is just stupidity in the extreme.

monkfish24 · May 1, 2014

Thor1950 said:
they there are these...Tow Strap Cinch Bone Pilot Automotive Tow Strap BC-902

Bully Cinch Bone : Cabela's

They there are not the same......,

That just stops the strap from pulling tight up to the tow hook, the soft shackle does what it says on the tin, it's a shackle.

monkfish24 · May 1, 2014

jacksta said:
Adding to Monkfish, if you are using all synthetic (rather than wire) its a great idea. If you were broken down in the wilds you may be able to use it as a snare for rabbits?

Yeah, i don't see why not, the only problem is it may not be stiff enough to hold itself off the ground like wire would.

gemsdad · May 1, 2014

monkfish24 said:
They there are not the same......,

That just stops the strap from pulling tight up to the tow hook, the soft shackle does what it says on the tin, it's a shackle.

MF.take no notice of what he posts,he knows nothing.

monkfish24 · May 1, 2014

gemsdad said:
MF.take no notice of what he posts,he knows nothing.

Ha ha i just wanted to take they there are the mick!

gemsdad · May 1, 2014

monkfish24 said:
Ha ha i just wanted to take they there are the mick!

ok,but the item thor posted is just a lump of metal that goes through a loop but costs $15 +.why not just use a feckin heavy spanner etc and save the money.lol

bushwwacker · May 1, 2014

gemsdad said:
ok,but the item thor posted is just a lump of metal that goes through a loop but costs $99 +.why not just use a feckin heavy spanner etc and save the money.lol

It only wieghs half a pound and 15 dorrar but tax would knock it up a bit.
Looks like a decent idea to me.

How much do the spectra/dymena jovvies work out at?

£6.32/M and a 'how to splice' video.

http://www.pinbax.com/index.asp?selection=detailed&uid=36974&cg=10&mc=112&cct=6&sc=1002

gemsdad · May 1, 2014

bushwwacker said:
It only wieghs half a pound and 15 dorrar but tax would knock it up a bit.
Looks like a decent idea to me.

How much do the spectra/dymena jovvies work out at?

no idea,but that lump of ally will come through the windscreen just the same as a shackle.which is why the question was first asked.

bushwwacker · May 1, 2014

gemsdad said:
no idea,but that lump of ally will come through the windscreen just the same as a shackle.which is why the question was first asked.

True but half a pound is less than what any of my shackles weigh. I imagine it would have lower kinetic energy by the time it got to the windscreen than 2lb of steel would.

gemsdad · May 1, 2014

bushwwacker said:
True but half a pound is less than what any of my shackles weigh. I imagine it would have lower kinetic energy by the time it got to the windscreen than 2lb of steel would.

ok well i will let you try it out then,report back here,if you can.

Deasy · May 1, 2014

Thers a chap around the corner from me that makes them. They are very good. And light weight and stronger. And the more you pull the tighter they get
http://m.ebay.co.uk/itm/251167806329?nav=SEARCH

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