The hot start fix will also mask poor starting due to low cranking speed caused by a poor battery.
 
This forum should be about learning from other peoples mistakes so heres an offering from me. I found a nice big battery, Varta, to fit in my diesel, but the connectors were the wrong way round, so being clever, (too effing clever by `alf), I decided to buy it, discharge it totally, and then re-charge it the other way round.
Easy.
Feeling quite pleased with myself I started fitting fully charged battery. The posts look similar, but I can tel you all they are different sizes. But with to reduce one post, and ream out other clamp it did eventually fit.
So it is do-able but not my best move ever.
 
This forum should be about learning from other peoples mistakes so heres an offering from me. I found a nice big battery, Varta, to fit in my diesel, but the connectors were the wrong way round, so being clever, (too effing clever by `alf), I decided to buy it, discharge it totally, and then re-charge it the other way round.
Easy.
Feeling quite pleased with myself I started fitting fully charged battery. The posts look similar, but I can tel you all they are different sizes. But with to reduce one post, and ream out other clamp it did eventually fit.
So it is do-able but not my best move ever.

Not to be recomended :rolleyes:
 
This forum should be about learning from other peoples mistakes so heres an offering from me. I found a nice big battery, Varta, to fit in my diesel, but the connectors were the wrong way round, so being clever, (too effing clever by `alf), I decided to buy it, discharge it totally, and then re-charge it the other way round.
Easy.
Feeling quite pleased with myself I started fitting fully charged battery. The posts look similar, but I can tel you all they are different sizes. But with to reduce one post, and ream out other clamp it did eventually fit.
So it is do-able but not my best move ever.

Lead acid batteries are not designed to be reverse charged.
 
Halfords own brand are rebadged Varta. The also sell Bosch.

Very true some of them are. But Halfrauds batteries have not always been made by these companies historically they were cheap and crap. Varta make Bosch batteries. Why would you pay £108.00 at Halfrauds for 55amp battery with a two year warranty, when you can get the same battery with the Varta label and a four year warranty from the factors at £54.00?
 
Very true some of them are. But Halfrauds batteries have not always been made by these companies historically they were cheap and crap. Varta make Bosch batteries. Why would you pay £108.00 at Halfrauds for 55amp battery with a two year warranty, when you can get the same battery with the Varta label and a four year warranty from the factors at £54.00?

Yu wouldnt. Buts that's because a 54ah battery is a lot cheaper than £108.00 and the minimum warranty is 3 years. You actually have a choice of 3, 4 or 5 years warranty.
Cummon Wammers. Unlike yu to get yo facts wrong. Check yo facts first :rolleyes:

(a trade card helps, of course)
 
Lead acid batteries are not designed to be reverse charged.

Maybe that's why they have a + at one terminal and a - at the other. The terminals are also different sizes to stop you mis- connecting them.
They way a lead/acid battery is designed means electronic are designed to only flow one way.
 
Yu wouldnt. Buts that's because a 54ah battery is a lot cheaper than £108.00 and the minimum warranty is 3 years. You actually have a choice of 3, 4 or 5 years warranty.
Cummon Wammers. Unlike yu to get yo facts wrong. Check yo facts first :rolleyes:

(a trade card helps, of course)

Son in law went to Halfrauds for a battery for his Renault they quoted him £108.00. He rang and asked if that was ok. I said no. Halfrauds normal warranty is two years unless you pay a premium. So i suppose at that price it may have been the extended one. I did not ask. I got him a Varta 55amp from my supplier for £54.00 with a four year warranty. As i said before Halfrauds are over priced, they may well have corrected their poor battery quality reputation by selling better products. But their prices are well over the top.:):)
 
Wammers
I can assure yo that the minimum warranty offered on Halfrauds batteries is 3 years!
PM me the reg number and I will check thisarvo, just so I can be sure of my facts as to what battery would be recomended. I have a sneaky sus****ion that at £108, that will be a Bosch 5 year warranty, but would like to check.
I agree that they aint cheap, but then, as I have said before, you pay for convenience.
All batteries supplied are now from Varta, even the Bosch ones.
 
Dunno about Bosch batteries but the Varta plant outside Alicante made "own label" batteries for Vauxhall and PartCo. That was about 5 yrs ago so could have changed since. Came off the same line, but I don`t know if they were speced differently, or not.
 
Wammers
I can assure yo that the minimum warranty offered on Halfrauds batteries is 3 years!
PM me the reg number and I will check thisarvo, just so I can be sure of my facts as to what battery would be recomended. I have a sneaky sus****ion that at £108, that will be a Bosch 5 year warranty, but would like to check.
I agree that they aint cheap, but then, as I have said before, you pay for convenience.
All batteries supplied are now from Varta, even the Bosch ones.

Don't know reg. But that is what they offered him. Last time i bought a battery from them it was a leisure one for my boat (yes it was a Sunday:D) it was pretty cheap and not very good. But that is a few years ago. I would never buy parts from them anyway i use the trade factors. Halfrauds prices are way beyond what i consider fair but they are aimed at DIYers not trades people. Although some trade factors like Andrew Page up here take the **** these days. There are still good ones around. At one time you could not get served in a trade factor unless you were known to them, now any Tom Dick or Harry can go in there. Yeah my supplier tells me Varta make batteries for Bosch.
 
Wot model and year?

Does it matter, it's a 55amp battery? Halfrauds label (Varta or Bosch) at £108 against a Varta labelled (Varta) for £54.00 is a no brainer. The car make model is not relivent. An Halfrauds trade card means not a lot because their starting price is much too high to begin with. As i said before in another post, Halfrauds capless sidelamp bulbs £4.28 a pair. Less than 50p each bought singally at factors and a lot less in bulk. I don't mind paying a little for convenience, but i do draw the line at having my fingernails removed at the till.
 
I got caught visiting family in Jockland and had to buy a battery from sh**fit now that was 3 years ago and every December I go back to them down here complain like **** and get a new one and a new waranty so slowly I am getting my moneys worth from memory it was 90 quid - just got another replacement last week haha:D
 
Wammers
The point being Halfrauds do not sell a 54Ah battery. Certainly not at £108! You are talking unsubstantiated bollix at the mo.
I ain't trying to promote them, just trying to get the facts right. If I know the reg no or the make/model/year & injun size, I will look up the recomended batteries to see what they are and can give an accurate response.
At the moment the point you are making is invalid. It is like saying don't buy a loaf at Tescos - it's £340. it is unsubstantiated and inaccurate and unproven. I know that you are mistaken.

You seem to be exaggerating the prices on most items - for example you state above.....

As i said before in another post, Halfrauds capless sidelamp bulbs £4.28 a pair. Less than 50p each bought singally at factors and a lot less in bulk.
That is not true. As Halfrauds 501 bulbs are 2.79 a pair. That ain't cheap, but it isn't £4.28 either. Please be accurate. http://www.halfords.com/webapp/wcs/...&productId=215094&categoryId=165538&langId=-1
Most peeps would have difficult finding them at 50p each.
 
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Wammers
The point being Halfrauds do not sell a 54Ah battery. Certainly not at £108! You are talking unsubstantiated bollix at the mo.
I ain't trying to promote them, just trying to get the facts right. If I know the reg no or the make/model/year & injun size, I will look up the recomended batteries to see what they are and can give an accurate response.
At the moment the point you are making is invalid. It is like saying don't buy a loaf at Tescos - it's £340. it is unsubstantiated and inaccurate and unproven. I know that you are mistaken.

You seem to be exaggerating the prices on most items - for example you state above.....


That is not true. As Halfrauds 501 bulbs are 2.79 a pair. That ain't cheap, but it isn't £4.28 either. Please be accurate. Halfords | Halfords HBU501 5W Bulbs Pair
Most peeps would have difficult finding them at 50p each.

Who mentioned a 54 amp battery? The battery was 55 amp. I suggest you visit Halfrauds on Ribbleton Lane in Preston then, because i can assure you that a two pack of 5 watt capless bulbs was priced at £4.28. Next to them were two packs of 21 watt yellow indicator bulbs priced at £5.98.
The son in law WAS quoted £108.00 for a 55 amp battery whether you like it or not. Reason i know about bulbs was my MOT was due and one of my sides was out. As i was passing Halfrauds i called in to get a couple of bulbs those were the prices i saw. I went to MOs auto factors on New Hall lane and got two for £1.00. Another Halfrauds ripoff 6" cable ties don't know how many off hand, but about ten per pack. £1.30. I can get 100 for a pound at W Moore and sons just around the corner. Why do you continue to defend these ripoff merchants?
 
54Ah was a typo on my part. They don't sell a 55Ah either. I am just trying to ascertain the FACTS.
I'd yu click the link above, yu can see the price and, in Bstoke at least, the prices are the same.
I ain't arguing that they aren't more expensive than some other place - just I cannot find the prices that yu keep quoting anywhere, and so I cannot believe that those prices are correct. You aren't prepared to give me the info to check and validate what you say.
 
54Ah was a typo on my part. They don't sell a 55Ah either. I am just trying to ascertain the FACTS.
I'd yu click the link above, yu can see the price and, in Bstoke at least, the prices are the same.
I ain't arguing that they aren't more expensive than some other place - just I cannot find the prices that yu keep quoting anywhere, and so I cannot believe that those prices are correct. You aren't prepared to give me the info to check and validate what you say.

The info you have is exacly the same i have, my son in law went to Halfrauds for a new battery just before christmas. His vehicle is a Renault Clio Dynamique 1.2, 2003. He was quoted by them £108.00 for a replacement battery. I don't know which of their batteries they quoted for or how long the warranty period was, but the one fitted and required is 55 amp rated. He rang me and asked if that was a fair price, i said no. I got him a 55amp Varta, 4 years warranty for £54.00 from my supplier. Longton batteries Fylde road Preston. The prices quoted for bulbs are correct. Whether it was a pricing error i do not know, but the day i saw them i posted on here with those prices, as i was so disgusted with them. There you are all the info make of it what you will. Unless you can find a transcript of the sales persons conversation with Stuart somewhere on the Halfrauds web site i don't see how you can possibly validate anything. I can ask Stuart if i can let you have his mobile number so you can ask him yourself, but anything he says will not be checkable either. Halfrauds are ripoff merchants and nobody in the trade would buy from them simple as that.
 

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