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j the range
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nobody knows if its bent or needs jigging, the body sitting on the wheel could be no bump stops fitted. i dont know how anybody can come up with pepair bill without seeing it. after saying that it has not been though a proper mot, i would like to see the out come of that..
Ahhhh!!!! Subtle as ever there Tony !!!
Well sorry but it is. You cannot just go to a vehicle and put a tape measure on it. Specially with a Range Rover on two live axles and radius arms with countless rubber bushes and panard rods. The way it is sat can alter the wheel base as the suspensions travel in an arch. To test it properly it has to be blocked down to set heights. Go on a carpark with a tape and try it you would scrap almost every car on there.
no one in their right mind would buy this vehicle - there's a couple of grands worth of work, and that's without really trying to find fault - think on a few 1000 miles, it'll be falling apart
it's an old nail that's been hammered - get yer dosh back and go find a nice one, lots of them around
it's an old nail that's been hammered - get yer dosh back and go find a nice one, lots of them around
j the range
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could not agree more, hope it dont put him off and somebody can go with him next time
Yeah money back is only way. When Jay has money in his hand kick dealer smartly in bollocks and walk out. A satisfactory ending that in my view.
Yeah money back is only way. When Jay has money in his hand kick dealer smartly in bollocks and walk out. A satisfactory ending that in my view.
That's the most sensible post on this thread.
could not agree more, hope it dont put him off and somebody can go with him next time
J , go and fetch him and come over to mine for a look at my Rangie, there's some Jammie Dodgers waiting for you!!!!
J , go and fetch him and come over to mine for a look at my Rangie, there's some Jammie Dodgers waiting for you!!!!
Groans- blatant sale spam, thought you had moved to a Hitler mobile?
Update,
Sorry for delayed replies my Laptop had died so only got works computer at the moment.
Letter recieved:
interesting letter, he sayd he has consulted a RR specialist / mechanic who has looked at my notes (independant inspection notes). His specialist thinks that the alleged defect are repairable and at a reasonable cost - interesting without seeing the vehicle.
It also states that he doesnt accept liability with the issues as the car was sold with an MOT and therefore it must have been road legal. so he denies that the alleged faults exist or that the car is unroadworthy.
Trader said to me the car was delivered to him, the letter states he drove it back from auction with out issues?????
Trader wants to have the car collected and taken to his RR specialist, I am not happy with this proposal as it is obviously a contact of his and who knows what he will fix.
Am I within my rights to offer 6 localish specialists that I want the car to go to, completly independant to both him and me???
So in conclusion he is still refusing to accept he is liable for the car, he isnt going to refund at the moment but he will pay for another inspection.
What I dont want to do it have to get a solicitor at £££ per hour as this is money I dont have.
WHAT CAN I DO NEXT.
Sorry for delayed replies my Laptop had died so only got works computer at the moment.
Letter recieved:
interesting letter, he sayd he has consulted a RR specialist / mechanic who has looked at my notes (independant inspection notes). His specialist thinks that the alleged defect are repairable and at a reasonable cost - interesting without seeing the vehicle.
It also states that he doesnt accept liability with the issues as the car was sold with an MOT and therefore it must have been road legal. so he denies that the alleged faults exist or that the car is unroadworthy.
Trader said to me the car was delivered to him, the letter states he drove it back from auction with out issues?????
Trader wants to have the car collected and taken to his RR specialist, I am not happy with this proposal as it is obviously a contact of his and who knows what he will fix.
Am I within my rights to offer 6 localish specialists that I want the car to go to, completly independant to both him and me???
So in conclusion he is still refusing to accept he is liable for the car, he isnt going to refund at the moment but he will pay for another inspection.
What I dont want to do it have to get a solicitor at £££ per hour as this is money I dont have.
WHAT CAN I DO NEXT.
kooky_guy
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Personally I would refuse to let him anywhere near it.
The subsequent inspection you had performed has already proved the car is unroadworthy so it doesn't matter what he says about the previous MOT.
If he's that confident about the car then he should offer you a full refund with compensation and fix it himself.
Grrr.
Guy
The subsequent inspection you had performed has already proved the car is unroadworthy so it doesn't matter what he says about the previous MOT.
If he's that confident about the car then he should offer you a full refund with compensation and fix it himself.
Grrr.
Guy
Bromsgrove Defender
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What did consumer direct and VOSA have to say??
Bromsgrove Defender
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Yup looks like they are yr only options (legal anyway
)At least you technically get to choose where the repairs are made, I assumes the repairs would be at his expense??
If he refuses to play ball to have the vehicle repaired at one of the garages you have chosen then I think that'll be a very big deciding factor in your favor with the small claims court.
As someone already said it sounds like he's bluffing and hoping you'll do what he wants. Keep the initiative and yr chin up
Bromsgrove Defender
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I thought so to which is why I asked James what Consumer direct said.
Full refund
You may be able to request a full refund if you detected a serious fault, if it is still within a reasonable time of the sale and you have stopped using the car. 'Reasonable time' is not defined in law so it will also depend on the facts - it can vary from weeks to a few months. Be sure to keep all of your documents, such as independent inspections in writing as it is up to you to prove that the car was faulty at the time of the purchase if the dealer disputes your claim. If your complaint is deemed valid, you are also entitled to claim for reasonable losses suffered, including the cost of any independent report you have paid for to prove your case.
If you initially choose to allow the dealer to repair the fault within a reasonable period after the sale, you are still entitled to a refund if the repair turns out to be unsatisfactory.
If you are not entitled to a full refund - for example, because a 'reasonable time' has elapsed, you may be able to claim compensation for your losses resulting from being supplied with a faulty car.
Basic example of when a refund may be applicable:
You discover that your one-year old car bought from a dealer for £10,000 a few days ago has a major engine fault. You complain to the dealer straight away and request a full refund but the dealer disputes your claim. You agree to take the car to an independent garage and they confirm that the engine was in a very poor condition when sold. You provide the dealer with a written report of the garage's findings and ask for your money back.
In these circumstances the dealer must accept the car back and provide a full refund, as well as pay for any reasonable losses you have suffered such as the cost of the written report.
So is this not correct or did you ask the wrong question James
cos I thought you'd got yr report and asked for yr money back?
kooky_guy
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Eh? I really wouldn't go down that route. The minute he starts 'fixing' it then that weakens Jay's position. Full refund plus compensation is the only way forward with this.
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