Datatek · Jun 11, 2020

Carter4365 said:
Think that shows a lack of interest for them, budget cuts and all that, and i think they mostly sell off the armoured ones if im not mistaken.. just cause they arent useful and why use an armoured one to guard a british RAF base, its not like they need the armour

The new Defender being made in Slovakia might be off putting.
The vehicle in your photo seems to be known as the Ocelot, it weighs 7.5 tonnes and uses the ZF6hp auto, so may be in the workshop more than on the road.

Carter4365 · Jun 11, 2020

Datatek said:
The new Defender being made in Slovakia might be off putting.
The vehicle in your photo seems to be known as the Ocelot, it weighs 7.5 tonnes and uses the ZF6hp auto, so may be in the workshop more than on the road.

Its uses the service name of foxhound in the British army FYI, but yes it is the Ocelot, i think they've been pretty well received from what i know, but my only friend in the British army is a helicopter engineer so i am not an authority.

Hippo · Jun 11, 2020

Si Click said:
True, but the benefit of selling to the military (or any other major contract) is it ensures cash flow, gives stability to the production line for the period of manufacture and should give an assured income from the support contract. If a business needs a cash inject to fund development elsewhere it can be a real boon.

The real problem with military contracts is that there are rigid contract award protocols and for your product to even enter the bidding process it must already have been tested and meet the required civil and military standards. That is a lengthy and expensive process, with no guarantee of ever recouping the costs.

I disagree. Production was steady for many years before production ended. The military want approx 1/3 discount on the price they would have sold it elsewhere for. That can't be far off making them for nothing. Why give a discount when you can sell for more elsewhere. I cant see them recouping money on after sales contracts with the military being that forceful on initial purchase price. When I went on the tratter production tour they told us about what I have put here when we asked. When yer think about the reality of business needing to make a profit then it makes sense. They don't need the military advertising now the web is here and free to advertise on. Like youtube.

RangeRoller dt · Jun 11, 2020

ZF6hp

One built with actual metal perhaps?

RangeRoller dt · Jun 11, 2020

Datatek · Jun 11, 2020

RangeRoller dt said:
ZF6hp
One built with actual metal perhaps?

Doubtful. Will it survive a 7.5 tonne vehicle? It aint that reliable in the L322 at 2.5 tonnes.

kermit_rr · Jun 11, 2020

why would you put a gearbox from a standard car into what looks like a highly capable armoured troop carrier!?

RangeRoller dt · Jun 11, 2020

Not that capable if the box mangles itself on a normal day

gstuart · Jun 11, 2020

Datatek said:
The new Defender being made in Slovakia might be off putting.
The vehicle in your photo seems to be known as the Ocelot, it weighs 7.5 tonnes and uses the ZF6hp auto, so may be in the workshop more than on the road.

hi mate

see they also put that 6HP28X into the BMW X5

must admit never heard of the engine

Steyr M16-Monoblock 6-cylinder Diesel
160 kW (210 hp)

extract

Its wheels function independently, so the vehicle's other wheels should continue to work if one is blown off. It is claimed that the engine can be removed and replaced in 30 minutes.

ps, hope ur keeping safe and well buddy

gstuart · Jun 11, 2020

https://db0nus869y26v.cloudfront.net/en/Ocelot_(vehicle)

gstuart · Jun 11, 2020

Good name for a Land Rover , “ the Snatch Vixen “ , oh err matron, lol

see this is what the foxhound replaced

https://db0nus869y26v.cloudfront.net/en/Snatch_Land_Rover

Datatek · Jun 11, 2020

gstuart said:
hi mate

see they also put that 6HP28X into the BMW X5

must admit never heard of the engine

Steyr M16-Monoblock 6-cylinder Diesel
160 kW (210 hp)

extract

Its wheels function independently, so the vehicle's other wheels should continue to work if one is blown off. It is claimed that the engine can be removed and replaced in 30 minutes.

ps, hope ur keeping safe and well buddy

Steyr were bought out of Steyr Daimler Puch some time ago and became an independent company in Austria. great idea relying on the Germans for parts for fighting vehicles

Independently functioning wheels may just mean diff locks.
All good here thanks for asking, things are getting back to normal, we are back to doing our weekly shop in town.
Hope all is well with you and yours

Datatek · Jun 11, 2020

gstuart said:
https://db0nus869y26v.cloudfront.net/en/Ocelot_(vehicle)

a bit more expensive than a Defender

tomcat59alan · Jun 11, 2020

gstuart said:
hi mate

see they also put that 6HP28X into the BMW X5

must admit never heard of the engine

Steyr M16-Monoblock 6-cylinder Diesel
160 kW (210 hp)

extract

Its wheels function independently, so the vehicle's other wheels should continue to work if one is blown off. It is claimed that the engine can be removed and replaced in 30 minutes.

ps, hope ur keeping safe and well buddy

Engine removal time is dependant on the size of the IED.

gstuart · Jun 11, 2020

tomcat59alan said:
Engine removal time is dependant on the size of the IED.

or plan B, lol

pete12345 · Jun 11, 2020

I’m glad the military ain’t buying the new defender there bloody expensive luxury vehicles now I’m sure tax payers money could be spent on more for your money

Hippo · Jun 11, 2020

The army would be betterer oft buying an evoque instead of the new tratter.

RangeRoller dt · Jun 11, 2020

I hear the headlights aren’t great

freelance · Jun 11, 2020

Hippo said:
The army would be betterer oft buying an evoque instead of the new tratter.

judging by the ones Witham’s mod sales regularly sell, they do buy all lower end lr product

Hippo · Jun 11, 2020

freelance said:
judging by the ones Witham’s mod sales regularly sell, they do buy all lower end lr product

I assume for non battle field use, apart from the FL2.

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