NikTheGeek
New Member
I'm disappointed too! I can't believe how poor my P38 is to drive in the snow!! I know I have road tyres on and I know it's a heavy car, but still....
GRATCH
HUGE MEMBER
At least your girlfriend can buy eight inches in store
There speaks the voice of experience
Dr_evil
Banned
There speaks the voice of experience
Yep
had to buy one for bob, fizzycnut didn't have enough for him 
Datatek
Well-Known Member
Traction brilliant, stopping and cornering lousy, plus virtually no feedback as to actual grip levels until it's too late. Nowhere near as good as my old Galloper
Discotigger
Active Member
Bloody gutted, havent even had a flake yet...and I'm in Cumbria!!
Ever since I got a 4x4 two years ago, I've not had one decent snow day. Gettin well pi$%£d off at the lack of driving fun.
Still time yet...but I'm not gonna hold my breath.
Ever since I got a 4x4 two years ago, I've not had one decent snow day. Gettin well pi$%£d off at the lack of driving fun.
Still time yet...but I'm not gonna hold my breath.
StuckAgainSteve
Well-Known Member
It's amazing how the perception of the same vehicle can be different from one person to another - or do P38s vary that much? I was astonished just how good my p38 was in the snow last year, I went looking for hills and ruts trying to get stuck - it just took it in its stride, on the road it was brilliant. It's running 16" General Grabber ATs. Didn't have a single iffy moment despite trying to provoke one. It's a 99 with the 4 wheel TC.
Check your VCU, cornering in the snow will be terrible if that's seized.
StuckAgainSteve
Well-Known Member
PS how worn are your tyres? Trying to cope with 2.5 tonnes of high centre of gravity vehicle in the snow is bad enough with road tyres - but worn road tyres - I suspect it'll struggle.
fortgrange
Active Member
A good 4 or 5 inches here and it's still falling hard and saint if that's a car park at Heathrow I'm only about 12 miles north of you.
As for traction, pulling away from stand still on steep hills on fresh and compacted snow with ease would suggest my winter tyres and the Rangie are doing what they say on the tin!!
As for traction, pulling away from stand still on steep hills on fresh and compacted snow with ease would suggest my winter tyres and the Rangie are doing what they say on the tin!!
Datatek
Well-Known Member
Impossible to get it stuck, also impossible to know when the grip level has reached the point where it's unstoppable on icy surfaces.
Nowt wrong with my VCU, it's checked at every sevice
StuckAgainSteve
Well-Known Member
Unless you're running studs or full winter tyres nothing stops on ice.
West Slope Rover
Well-Known Member
Sometimes even those won't work.
Datatek
Well-Known Member
True, but you miss the point, there is no "feel" with the P38 and the super traction luls one into a false sense of security. With my other 4 x 4's I ran in 2WD on snow and ice unless I needed extra traction, throttle use gave a good indication of grip level, on the P38 that just doesn't work. It makes me bloody nervous. I could hustle along in icy conditions in my previous 4 x 4's, still can in the MR2, but not in the P38.
West Slope Rover
Well-Known Member
It amazes me that things like this can be said about a P38 in the snow when my classic is the best snow vehicle that I've owned.
StuckAgainSteve
Well-Known Member
The P38's particularly well insulated when it comes to road and tyre noise - I suspect that doesn't help with feel. It still doesn't make the car bad in the snow. Simpler cars do give more feel, my Imp is fantastic in iffy conditions you know exactly what the tyres are doing. I'd still rather be in the Rangie when a knobhead in an out-of-control BMW X5 is hurtling towards me! My classic (steel spring sprung) had more feel but I'm sure the P38 has more grip - the P38's tyres are probably better - other than that the classic would probably edge it - shame I didn't like the car!
fortgrange
Active Member
As Data says I don't think traction is an issue, it's just not knowing when it runs out, probably due to the great fat tyres and heavy running gear. My Classic always gave more feed back with its narrow tyres but I still think the P38 is as good if not better in the snow.
