jai_landrover
Well-Known Member
You come on ere ask a question which is fai do's people stick up for you as what you are doing is the right way to get the gearing to what it should be and you just get arsey well....
I have not seen the Ashcroft high ratio box in action as yet if you wait a few months I will tell you as there may well be one fitted to the freshly built 88 as new but until then I cannot help you but I suspect it will be of good quality and will do exactly what you need.
I have not seen the Ashcroft high ratio box in action as yet if you wait a few months I will tell you as there may well be one fitted to the freshly built 88 as new but until then I cannot help you but I suspect it will be of good quality and will do exactly what you need.
the OP appears to want to be able to keep up with modern vehicle on the mway at 65-75 mph - correct me if i am wrong
are you really trying to say that an elderly landy (however well maintained) will handle in a safe, manageable and much more importantly a predictable manner when having to take RAPID evasive action at 70 mph when some numpty pulls into your lane
Don't worry about it - Sean just likes to start an argument
for once your not right
spitfiremk1uk
Active Member
Actually I believe an 88 landy truck cab well serviced could well outperform a 110 fitted with a roof rack in an avoidance scenario. Add to that equation the numpty driving who fits a spare wheel and extra jerry cans on the roof rack of the 110 and there would be no contest.
I would suggest that many of the preconsieved ideas about older landys come from driving complete old nails that passed an MOT only because the MOT tester either didnt know what he was looking at or didnt want to know.
Add off road tyres, lifted suspension, power mods and any none std equipment and weight increases and the equation gets even murkier.
Did you in fact know that drum brakes are actually more efficient than disk brakes? I can even hear the gasps from here!
Drum brakes have a self servo action and twin leading shoes (109 fronts) have double this performance increase so they dont need a servo to get the same braking effort at the wheel.
if you can lock the wheels, having better brakes simply mean they lock easier. the brakes are no better. And the vehicle will not slow any quicker!
brake fade is another question. yes disk brakes do cool quicker and heat less quickly making them better for some situations. They are also cheaper to produce making them a favourite for manufacturers.
dont diss the series. a good one is every bit as good as a defender. The problem is finding a good one!
Talk to the guys who used to race a lightweight and won many championships on leaf springs if his car is crap in comparison to a std defender. Also take a santana land rover, they use leaf springs and are passed fit for sale in our modern world. Whats wrong with these then?
Ashcroft transfer box mod will be good quality and will work well. My only doubt is the higher 1st gear. I would prefer a 5th gear or overdrive option but finding good ones is hard.
Changing the transfer box is better than changing diffs simply because you retain the low range capability of your car. All those that have changed to range rover diffs will now need to put way more power through there main gearbox to achieve the same pulling power at the wheels. Not a problem if you have more power from the engine but most dont.
You will see the difference when you try and pull a heavy trailer away from a standing start on a steep hill. Low range 1st can be needed and thats what you havent got anymore. Watch the clutch smoke as the rangy diff boys need extreme revs just to make it move!
I would suggest that many of the preconsieved ideas about older landys come from driving complete old nails that passed an MOT only because the MOT tester either didnt know what he was looking at or didnt want to know.
Add off road tyres, lifted suspension, power mods and any none std equipment and weight increases and the equation gets even murkier.
Did you in fact know that drum brakes are actually more efficient than disk brakes? I can even hear the gasps from here!
Drum brakes have a self servo action and twin leading shoes (109 fronts) have double this performance increase so they dont need a servo to get the same braking effort at the wheel.
if you can lock the wheels, having better brakes simply mean they lock easier. the brakes are no better. And the vehicle will not slow any quicker!
brake fade is another question. yes disk brakes do cool quicker and heat less quickly making them better for some situations. They are also cheaper to produce making them a favourite for manufacturers.
dont diss the series. a good one is every bit as good as a defender. The problem is finding a good one!
Talk to the guys who used to race a lightweight and won many championships on leaf springs if his car is crap in comparison to a std defender. Also take a santana land rover, they use leaf springs and are passed fit for sale in our modern world. Whats wrong with these then?
Ashcroft transfer box mod will be good quality and will work well. My only doubt is the higher 1st gear. I would prefer a 5th gear or overdrive option but finding good ones is hard.
Changing the transfer box is better than changing diffs simply because you retain the low range capability of your car. All those that have changed to range rover diffs will now need to put way more power through there main gearbox to achieve the same pulling power at the wheels. Not a problem if you have more power from the engine but most dont.
You will see the difference when you try and pull a heavy trailer away from a standing start on a steep hill. Low range 1st can be needed and thats what you havent got anymore. Watch the clutch smoke as the rangy diff boys need extreme revs just to make it move!
ciderman
Active Member
Hello. i have got one on my series 2. 1967.
and..... it is wonderful.
easy quiet cruising, makes a series just like a modern car, but you have still got your low ration unaltered for seriously difficult times.
i have also got the same head as you.
you might now be able to hear the radio!
and..... it is wonderful.
easy quiet cruising, makes a series just like a modern car, but you have still got your low ration unaltered for seriously difficult times.
i have also got the same head as you.
you might now be able to hear the radio!
spitfiremk1uk
Active Member
There you go.
Straight from Cidermans mouth/keyboard.
Great upgrade.
Straight from Cidermans mouth/keyboard.
Great upgrade.
your first point is like saying having an elephant sit on your head is going to hurt more than if a day old kitten did - it's obvious
with regard to your preconceptions point - i'd be much more convinced if you'd argued that people assume an elderly landy will handle in the same manner as a more modern vehicle simply due to it's ability to reach the same speeds, this is much more likely to be the case IMO
i'll bet there's not many people around who have had to take rapid evasive action at motorway speeds
spitfiremk1uk
Active Member
Sean
I am not going to engange in who is right and wrong.(Not after this post)
You have made a statement.
IMO it is clear that those who know will just disregard most anything you write here, those that dont know should be warned that any advice you give might need more than a pinch of salt to make it worth the time to read.
I am sure the ashcroft conversion is a sound conversion and does exactly what it says on the box.
The transfer box conversion is the best way to get the higher gearing MANY land rover owners have been doing in the past. This is nothing new. The advantage of this conversion is that it removes most of the major drawbacks of raising the gearing using diffs and/or overdrives.
If you have anything relevant to post regarding Dean68Uk original question I am sure it will be read and given the appropriate attention it deserves.
As for your implications regarding emergency avoidance techniques then I might just add that during my time as a driver for the International Police Program in Afghanistan I did on occasion practice this and also carried out such actions during routine daily work. And for the record almost allways at speeds exceeding the UK legal speed limits.
Would you like some lessons?
I am not going to engange in who is right and wrong.(Not after this post)
You have made a statement.
IMO it is clear that those who know will just disregard most anything you write here, those that dont know should be warned that any advice you give might need more than a pinch of salt to make it worth the time to read.
I am sure the ashcroft conversion is a sound conversion and does exactly what it says on the box.
The transfer box conversion is the best way to get the higher gearing MANY land rover owners have been doing in the past. This is nothing new. The advantage of this conversion is that it removes most of the major drawbacks of raising the gearing using diffs and/or overdrives.
If you have anything relevant to post regarding Dean68Uk original question I am sure it will be read and given the appropriate attention it deserves.
As for your implications regarding emergency avoidance techniques then I might just add that during my time as a driver for the International Police Program in Afghanistan I did on occasion practice this and also carried out such actions during routine daily work. And for the record almost allways at speeds exceeding the UK legal speed limits.
Would you like some lessons?
were you driving a 25+ year old Series Landrover while you were playing Starsky and Hutch ? (me point being a 25+ year old Series Landrover handles kinda differently to a more recent vehicle at speed)
thanks for the driving lessons offer
you sound really big and clever and tough and stuff
jai_landrover
Well-Known Member
lol you aguing again sean, Never!
