Many thanks for posting the link. I've been waiting for this to be published - pretty much as I was expecting.
 
Total bollocks........someone must have forgot his /her comic while sitting down and taking a sh1t............with no comic to read decided to dream up useless irrelevent rules
 
Colthebrummie said:
I take it you don't have a vehicle that will qualify.

Col
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If someone could advise me of the reasons a 40 year old vehicle has less need of a safety check than a 3 year old vehicle perhaps I might be convinced untill then I'll rely on my 50 years as a mechanic and a vehicle examiner to call the person who drafted that rule a total idiot
 
Cars made before 1960 have been mot exempt. The thinking behind is that if a car gets to that age, it is probably being looked after well by an enthusiast who either knows more,about his car than the average mechanic or is willing to pay a specialist to maintain it for him. Yes, there may be a few ropey old bangers about but they wont last much longer without decent maintenance. My 40 year old series 3 is probably mechanically safer than many newer defenders.

Col
 
Moron said:
If someone could advise me of the reasons a 40 year old vehicle has less need of a safety check than a 3 year old vehicle perhaps I might be convinced untill then I'll rely on my 50 years as a mechanic and a vehicle examiner to call the person who drafted that rule a total idiot
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Come to europe Matey ! my S3 brakes / lights/ tyres body ect are as good as when it was new... hence i only need an MOT every two years!!! do you think
im going to thrash it down a motorway like a 3 yr old car ?..PS .it may well get more attention than the car you use every day !;)
 
Colthebrummie said:
Cars made before 1960 have been mot exempt. The thinking behind is that if a car gets to that age, it is probably being looked after well by an enthusiast who either knows more,about his car than the average mechanic or is willing to pay a specialist to maintain it for him.

Then why is it that only 20% of these reg. owners have opted to have their exempt vehicles voluntarily mot tested just to be sure of their safety?
The most laughable bit is the government telling us plebs that the exemption is to save 'classic' vehicle owners money - yeah right!
Before anybody asks, no I don't have qualifying vehicle (yet) but that does not effect my conviction that exemption is a bad idea. Vehicles weighing over 3.5tonnes have been exempt for decades (I used to own WW2 military vehicles) but such vehicles are hardly likely to be used for the daily commute in the way cars can be.
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My landy is a 76, I'm not bad at looking after it, bought it after it was in a garden for years. I've restored cars before from a pile of bits
... I will still pay for an mot as 40 quid is cheap for piece of mind
 
I think most people who own road usable exempt vehicles have an mot check, like you say, for piece of mind and it's the responsible thing to do.

Col
 
I've got an 83 S3. Whilst there's responsible owners out there who maintain their vehicles they can't ignore the statistics. As time passes there are less older vehicles cos the poorly maintained ones die. There's a point in time when the statistics show an acceptable level of accidents. Extrapolate the potential number of dodgy vehicles 30-40 years old that are poorly maintained by looking at the amount of duff S3's around that are barely legal or simply SORN. Personally I happy to MOT mine as it obliges me to maintain the vehicle to a safe standard.
 
Edlandy said:
My landy is a 76, I'm not bad at looking after it, bought it after it was in a garden for years. I've restored cars before from a pile of bits
... I will still pay for an mot as 40 quid is cheap for piece of mind
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Good for you if you can't decide for yourself that your vehicle if road worthy.

I have a 1976 car which I maintain, its only visit to a garage was for it free first service, it's never failed an MOT test, nether did my RR when I had it but then that was regularly Dealer serviced.
Then there's my 'hobby' disco which is 20 years old this month, its never failed, the first 5 years it was Dealer serviced, and now which I have serviced for the last 15 years other than a single visit an garage to carry out a service and change the gearbox fluid/filter which is a bit involved with a V8.
As l buy my vehicles new all the other cars I've owned over the years go before the first MOT is due.
 
To my mind, there is a major difference between a vehicle that is used regularly (but not necessarily of average mileage), passes its MOT every year, and then passes the 40 year threshold and becomes exempt, from one that lies in a field or barn for 20 years, is restored to a lesser or greater extent, and then qualifies for exemption purely on the grounds of age. I would be happier if there was a requirement for 5 years successive MOT passing before exemption in such cases. :)
 
Just cant understand the logic of an aging vehicle which relies on old technology and increasingly rare spare parts needing less checking, makes no sense to me.
 
raywin said:
Just cant understand the logic of an aging vehicle which relies on old technology and increasingly rare spare parts needing less checking, makes no sense to me.
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Aside from whether it makes sense or not I don't understand the motivation to change the regs?
 
I had a 1976 MGBGT until fairly recently - when I fist got it had an MOT from the previous owner. when it canme to my turn to put it in the garage I found holes that had been patched with filler and cardboard in the chassis and then painted over with a thick coat of underbody sealant. Now had it not been in for a MOT and thoroughly inspected on a lift, I might not have found this out.
A rolling 40 years starts to bring in cars like original ford fiestas, and VW golfs and campers - neither of which were designed to be the "Strip down" vehicles like a series.

I own a S2a - the news of not having to have a MOT makes my life easier as I know the condition, I can crawl under it - other vehicles that fall into the bracket might not be so easy to tell.

There may be a lot of mid-life crisis people that fall into this potential trap.
 
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