hello all back again on the same subject must say the comments were expected
some one said a p38 on springs was not roadworthy if this is the case the insurance
industry is not aware of this as along with p38s on springs they insure vw t2 campers
retro fitted with air suspension & also american classics fitted with air kits
both the above types were fitted at manufacture with springs or torsion bars.
i have also noted that 2 large players in the landrover market sell kits of matched springs and dampers i cannot see the directors of the above firms risking there reputation and wealth.on a product that is not designed and tested to be safe.so in summery in my opinion if you fit a kit of matched parts inform your insurance company of the parts fitted and manufactures name then accept that the on road high speed dynamic capabilities will be reduced
and drive within the limits of the mods. then the original point of the question at the start of this thread will be met
if i have still missed the point then please tell me what is the point,

Replacing springs with air is not the same as going the other way, intelligent air suspension will always be better because the vehicle can retain it's designed static level regardless of load, could be why so many trucks and semi trailers use it not to mention campers.
 
Just from an insurers view on this sort of modification -

If the vehicle is deemed roadworthy and legal in the form of an MOT, and you notify the insurer of the alteration made to the vehicle - we will cover it. I can't obviously say this will go for every insurance company under the sun - but as a specialist we cover almost all modifications (As long as they're legal!)

If anyone needs any help with insurance then just get in touch.

Cheers

Jordan
 
Just from an insurers view on this sort of modification -

If the vehicle is deemed roadworthy and legal in the form of an MOT, and you notify the insurer of the alteration made to the vehicle - we will cover it. I can't obviously say this will go for every insurance company under the sun - but as a specialist we cover almost all modifications (As long as they're legal!)

If anyone needs any help with insurance then just get in touch.

Cheers

Jordan

You refused to insure a nitros oxide injection installation on one of my vehicles - I didn't see anything illegal with it.
 
i am of the opinion that all vehicles have safe limits when i am driving a merc sprinter with a tail lift and a box body it does not handle as well as a standard 313 steel bodied van both are safe the limits are different but both vehicles are safe if driven within there limits please note the subject of the thread was insurance compliance .
 
i am of the opinion that all vehicles have safe limits when i am driving a merc sprinter with a tail lift and a box body it does not handle as well as a standard 313 steel bodied van both are safe the limits are different but both vehicles are safe if driven within there limits please note the subject of the thread was insurance compliance .

Oh no, a white van man.:D:D
 
Early Range Rovers (Classics) had an affinity with rolling over going around corners at speed and if swerved at speed. So much so that all police force traffic Range rovers at the time were banned from high speed pursuit. (quote]

Did they not have anti-roll bars? My '87 Vogue had the genuine LR kit fitted by a previous owner in the early 'nineties & is very stable.
 
Early Range Rovers (Classics) had an affinity with rolling over going around corners at speed and if swerved at speed. So much so that all police force traffic Range rovers at the time were banned from high speed pursuit. (quote]

Did they not have anti-roll bars? My '87 Vogue had the genuine LR kit fitted by a previous owner in the early 'nineties & is very stable.

Front on early models extra one on the back for later models. That was obviously to address a problem. I worked on and road tested lots of early ones their handling was ****e. Unless you drove like a nun. Also went through transfer box bearings and oil seals like kids go through a tube of Smarties.
 
Front on early models extra one on the back for later models. That was obviously to address a problem. I worked on and road tested lots of early ones their handling was ****e. Unless you drove like a nun. Also went through transfer box bearings and oil seals like kids go through a tube of Smarties.


I had an 89 Vogue in 91 - with the LR anti-roll bar kit - it was still ****e! Scared the bejesus out of me on many an occasion - never more glad than to get rid of that car! Rust was already evident in several places when three years old! To say the P38 was a step up in quality and handling is understating it 1000%! And my P38 was an old tired car by the time I got it - unlike the relatively new classic.
 

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