Just booked a different place for Christmas.
Nope, if you have your own place and pay taxes etc on it you, well at least we, want to spend a long time there, especially as we do things like grow our own veg, keep chickens etc.So is this them all singing from the same page
So are they different visas? you only need the 90days in France don't you?
J
So from when I retired until Brexit fecked it up, we have spent the 6 months from about April to October in France and the rest of the time in the UK.
We were forced to do 90 days last year and we felt we had barely got there before we had to turn round and come home.
So there are all sorts of different visas. You can get long-stay 1 year visas and these are what you need if you decided you want to apply for a Carte de Séjour, which is basically a residence permit.
You can also different types of visa, e.g work, study, etc etc. When I worked over there back in 1978/9 I had a Carte de Séjour and it was a total pain to apply for, altho a bit easier as I was working for the French govt.
We are seriously thinking about the Carte de Séjour but we have to look into it carefully as there may be tax implications. At the end of the day it all depends on how much/if they stamp your passport if you have a Carte de Séjour. But I seem to remember being told that if you have one of them you are not allowed to spend longer than 4 months outside of France! which deffo will have tax implications and would make our lives over here a little tricky.
But hey ho, Brexit got done, dinnit!
I have a favourite little tape measure I've been using for years. But that's the problem, it has worn a bit so that on compression it reads fine but on extension it reads 1 mm over, due to the rivets having worn the holes in the end bit somewhat. And I don't always remember to take that into account.Afternoon folks
Well that's another good productive day done
Couldn't find 1 of the many other tape measures I know I have floating around here somewhere
J
The other one I use got stood on or summat so it won't stay in place when I want it to, well not exactly. But at least it is accurate.
Must buy myself one of those fat feckers that can hold itself out a long way.
Sorry typoed that 1 should have said 180
But hey ho, Brexit got done, dinnit!
Oh yeah didn't they just
.Being retyred is there really any/many tax implications? I dont know.
J
You can do 180 days, but you can only do 90 in one go, and you can't do 90, pop out of the country then back in again. You have to do 90 days out before you can do another 90 days in.Sorry typoed that 1 should have said 180
Oh yeah didn't they just
Being retyred is there really any/many tax implications? I dont know.
J
Basically the feckers are dictating to you when you can visit the place you paid for, employed French people to build for you and that you pay 365 days a year tax on.
So you and others will understand why we are so fecked off about it all.
The tax thing depends on where you get paid your pensions. As a retired teacher I have no choice but to receive them in the UK and pay my taxes there. But Wifey worked mostly for international companies so it is more complex for her. Basically, if you are out of the country for more than 6 months then you could be seen to be "tax resident" elsewhere and the frogs could start to demand tax on what you earn anywhere, much like the Merkins.
We have Dutch friends who have the same problem as they too have a place in Holland and one in France. They always make sure they spend less than 6 months in France.
Hee hee!That gives you the chance to cut twice
J
When I was fitting the noo kitchen I had to take 2mm off each of three units to make em fit as the walls weren't parallel. I could manage it cos the doors give you a bit of leeway, there was no way I could have narrowed the doors as they aren't wood nor nuffin.
I was quite chuffed with how I did it although it was a pain having to make up fixings etc and I didn't want to use right-angled brackets.
So I couldn't afford to feck up the measurements!
Perfect example of how a bad workman can blame his tools.
We had gates fitted and hung, pillars built etc by some frogs.
When we came back home as they we were doing it, we saw one pillar was about 4 " higher than the other. The dickhead blamed it on his level. TW@T!
He tried to say "Oh it's only aesthetics." Sadly if we'd told him to change it he'd have just fecked off and left it unfinished. So we let him "finish " it. I then got on to him to tell him that the things that lock the gates into position once open, only worked on one side. He totally ignored us.
Sadly he'd done good work for us in the past.
You never can tell.
Rough nite Dips
Hope you get some good news soon
They think a urinary tract infection has done him, it’s also put his ticker into AF, so he’s stuck in A&E with the fit nurses, while they check him over..
Gonna have to have that DNR chat though as it’s not the first infection to floor him, literally…
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One of the reasons we got out, it is nice here thoughEar @My Old Landy, I see Aylesbury was in the top handful of worst places to drop anchor in the UK
v8250
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You can do 180 days, but you can only do 90 in one go, and you can't do 90, pop out of the country then back in again. You have to do 90 days out before you can do another 90 days in.
Basically the feckers are dictating to you when you can visit the place you paid for, employed French people to build for you and that you pay 365 days a year tax on.
So you and others will understand why we are so fecked off about it all.
The tax thing depends on where you get paid your pensions. As a retired teacher I have no choice but to receive them in the UK and pay my taxes there. But Wifey worked mostly for international companies so it is more complex for her. Basically, if you are out of the country for more than 6 months then you could be seen to be "tax resident" elsewhere and the frogs could start to demand tax on what you earn anywhere, much like the Merkins.
We have Dutch friends who have the same problem as they too have a place in Holland and one in France. They always make sure they spend less than 6 months in France.
But here-in lies the problem and why we needed to get out of the EU. France/the French/the French Gov't have always wanted THEIR WAY, always been fcuking difficult and ALWAYS been beyond the point of greedy when it comes to residency taxation. Ultimately, French Gov't taxation has always screwed those non-French living in France and it will never change.
I'm looking at retiring/wanting to retire to France [French Alpes] but am really struggling with their taxation system and know they will fcuk me over at the first chance/first slip up I make. Really the French are incredibly stupid...they would gain far greater non-French resident tax receipts if they eased off their draconian laws. Here, they hide under the immoveable "Napoleonic law", which of course has nothing to do with Napoleon...it's that b'stard of a fellow De Gaulle, his subsequent inceptuals and their innate hatred of open minded British liberalism. The Frogs call this Socialism, when in reality they are the least of "social..." a Gov't and only social when it's to their national advantage [read increased tax revenue].
I wish you luck, Stanley...
I just might p!ss off to Switzerland and get charged 10% flat on everything
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Wifey's credit card co are taking up chasing Oaksh!tfurnitureland re the money owed, but I've already warned them to expect court action if they don't.
So am currently waiting to speak to a yuman being to warn them the official legal email has been sent.
(Their return email said they wouldn't answer emails in under 14 days,
At least it is a freephone number and the music isn't annoying!
Oh and the Frog embassy is open to accept visa applications. Wifey tells me that if you get a long term visa you can visit all the Schengen countries. But if you want to just go on holiday under 90 days to both Spain and France, for instance, you have to make separate applications for each country.
What a feckin mess!
One does wonder if they still want our tourist Euros!
Wot happens if you dont get a visa an just go is the fine cheaper & less hassle
Afternoon folks
Well that's another good productive day done
Couldn't find 1 of the many other tape measures I know I have floating around here somewhere
J
Mines do that as well
I mainly use a folding rule & its always in my work troosers
Just booked a different place for Christmas.
Dis you get two extra places for us.
I was clearing out a 40ft container in the yard today & found some goodies
About 2 years ago I sold one of the lads transom brackets for an outboard for his new boat...
I will pay you on friday but friday pay day didnt come so 100 quid down which I left as I
knew at some point he would be back for somit, as I was clearing out I found a box full of
new boat bits opened it only to find my water trap off my spray gun which he borrowed, I know
its mine as I painted my 90 with it & its still got blue over spray on it. Then it clicked the box of bits are
his & has since been sacked. I will of course tell him when I see him thanks for the bits. lol
About 2 years ago I sold one of the lads transom brackets for an outboard for his new boat...
I will pay you on friday but friday pay day didnt come
so 100 quid down which I left as I knew at some point he would be back for somit, as I was clearing out I found a box full of
new boat bits opened it only to find my water trap off my spray gun which he borrowed, I know
its mine as I painted my 90 with it & its still got blue over spray on it. Then it clicked the box of bits are
his & has since been sacked. I will of course tell him when I see him thanks for the bits. lol
v8250
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They tax their own peeps a ton too. I read recently that they have only just fallen off the top spot for taxing their population.But here-in lies the problem and why we needed to get out of the EU. France/the French/the French Gov't have always wanted THEIR WAY, always been fcuking difficult and ALWAYS been beyond the point of greedy when it comes to residency taxation. Ultimately, French Gov't taxation has always screwed those non-French living in France and it will never change.
I'm looking at retiring/wanting to retire to France [French Alpes] but am really struggling with their taxation system and know they will fcuk me over at the first chance/first slip up I make. Really the French are incredibly stupid...they would gain far greater non-French resident tax receipts if they eased off their draconian laws. Here, they hide under the immoveable "Napoleonic law", which of course has nothing to do with Napoleon...it's that b'stard of a fellow De Gaulle, his subsequent inceptuals and their innate hatred of open minded British liberalism. The Frogs call this Socialism, when in reality they are the least of "social..." a Gov't and only social when it's to their national advantage [read increased tax revenue].
I wish you luck, Stanley...
I just might p!ss off to Switzerland and get charged 10% flat on everything
I'll see if I can find a link.
This refers to taxing top earners:-
https://taxfoundation.org/personal-income-tax-rates-europe/
If anyone can be bothered to hack through all this it will tell them.
I just know that when I looked into it for myself and the missus, we would not have been any worse off. But of course that depends on how much dosh you have.
In the UK we have a relatively large tax free allowance before we have to pay anything, but then we pay 20%
In France you don't have an allowance then it is 8% roughly on everything.
So the sums aren't hard. BUT the wife's "part" helps reduce what is paid.
"Pacsed or married couples declare jointly and this can bring significant tax savings for partners with unequal incomes.
This is because joint income is reduced by a mechanism known as quotient familial (‘parts’) before tax bands/rates are applied. The resulting amount is then multiplied by up by the number of ‘parts’."
So if you have a hefty pension but the wife has not much, that really helps reduce the tax.
This helps you work it out.
french-property.com/guides/france/finance-taxation/taxation/calculation-tax-liability/rates
