saxavordian
Well-Known Member
Any complaints from ulez whining wallflowers and I'll take the exhaust manifold off.
The old Defender would have been successful here in the US had government mandates allowed it to be sold here. Emissions and the lack of passive restraints kept it off our market, same as the Jimny (Samurai).The new Defender also had to be a marketing success in USA which the old one wasn’t as that’s a major Land Rover market, the old Defender simply didn’t sell enough units even in Europe to be viable.
Grenadier have tried going down that route and it will be interesting to see how many sales they make.
Also who knows if they’ll still be around in 10 years time.
I'd have thought the Ford Bronco would be a reasonable vehicle that more of us might have been able to afford, capable too.Well, let's see your ideas for a simple functional vehicle then, that Land Rover should have produced.
lneos went for it with the Grenadier and largely succeeded, although it's out of reach for most at over ÂŁ70,000.
What you need is a back to basics vehicle for ÂŁ30,000
But don't forget, the platform has to support an electric option. And you need Stabilty control, lane departure warning, ABS, collision avoidance technology and it has to be Euro 6+ compliance.
And customers will whinge if you specify recirculating ball steering
You'll have to incorporate a media screen somewhere on the dash. And you'll need at least mild hybrid technology, so a second battery will be required for that.
Your design will have to pass all the latest collision tests including all the NCAP requirements, so those thin, flat doors you were thinking of incorporating just won't do.
And emissions will need to be low, or your company will get fined for every vehicle they produce. Your back to basics interior can't have any sharp edges or parts that could injure or impale occupants in a crash, and it has to survive a rollover without the roof collapsing. So forget the old Defender type A and B pillars, they just won't be strong enough.
Still think you can do it?
The Bronco is not designed to meet EU Type Approval. And would require lots of changes to be compatible. Ford have previously said they have no intention to bring it to Europe.Yeah the Bronco looks great, reasonably priced as well.
Wonder why Ford isn't marketing it in the U.K.