67Rob · Apr 12, 2015

....down.

Went away on Wednesday for a few days at our holiday home in Yarmouth, RR driving great when, suddenly, ABS, TC and air suspension warning lights came on followed by loss of rev counter and speedo.
Then everything went haywire, gear box fault, engine fault and warning buzzers and finally engine cut out.
Luckily there was a small slip road at exactly that point because as I just managed to pull into it a HGV came hurtling past.

RAC duly called out and both alternator and battery dead.
Ended being taken to a recommended garage in Yarmouth where the next day I paid £480 for replacement items including new alternator belt.

And now.... Bloody thing turning over slow when cold but does get going, but switch off when warmed up and it doesn't start unless I use the battery pack.
Battery showing 11.8 volts and alternator pushing 13.4 volts so I know it should be OK but at a loss as to why it won't start once warmed up?

Me on Weds....

67Rob · Apr 12, 2015

Oh, and forgot to add, the rear wiper is now working where before, it was dead.

tomcat59alan · Apr 12, 2015

Check all the battery/ alternator cable connections, could be loose. Put a jump lead from the negative post on the battery to the engine, see if it improves. If it does then check your earth straps.

67Rob · Apr 12, 2015

tomcat59alan said:
Check all the battery/ alternator cable connections, could be loose. Put a jump lead from the negative post on the battery to the engine, see if it improves. If it does then check your earth straps.

Will do right now, back in a mo....

67Rob · Apr 12, 2015

Arrrrggggghhhh....it started first time cold and first time 4 times in a row from hot with the jump lead removed.

ukadamwest · Apr 12, 2015

RAC duly called out and both alternator and battery dead.
Ended being taken to a recommended garage in Yarmouth where the next day I paid £480 for replacement items including new alternator belt.

f**k me sideways.

Gold plated ones ?

67Rob · Apr 12, 2015

ukadamwest said:
f**k me sideways.

Gold plated ones ?

Had no choice, was on holiday and only place that had parts immediately was Halfrauds.

Prices were £224 for alternator, £97 for battery, £22 for belt and £60 labour. Add the dreaded VAT and there it is.

Littelwill · Apr 12, 2015

They bent you over something chronic!

tomcat59alan · Apr 12, 2015

67Rob said:
Arrrrggggghhhh....it started first time cold and first time 4 times in a row from hot with the jump lead removed.

Check tighten battery/ alternator connections

ukadamwest · Apr 12, 2015

hope you kept the alternator. bet it was a diode pack.. cost no more than about £20. then you can return the halfords one

Datatek · Apr 12, 2015

67Rob said:
....down.

Went away on Wednesday for a few days at our holiday home in Yarmouth, RR driving great when, suddenly, ABS, TC and air suspension warning lights came on followed by loss of rev counter and speedo.
Then everything went haywire, gear box fault, engine fault and warning buzzers and finally engine cut out.
Luckily there was a small slip road at exactly that point because as I just managed to pull into it a HGV came hurtling past.

RAC duly called out and both alternator and battery dead.
Ended being taken to a recommended garage in Yarmouth where the next day I paid £480 for replacement items including new alternator belt.

And now.... Bloody thing turning over slow when cold but does get going, but switch off when warmed up and it doesn't start unless I use the battery pack.
Battery showing 11.8 volts and alternator pushing 13.4 volts so I know it should be OK but at a loss as to why it won't start once warmed up?

Me on Weds....

13.4 volts is not a lot of good, should be an absolute minimum of 13.8 but 14.2 to 14.5 volts is normal except for some early cars. Petrol or diesel? Battery may be too small.

plumbfisher · Apr 12, 2015

Sorry to hear about that Rob.

I'm not so sure about trusting that Halfrauds would supply the necessary. I just got a 'remanufactured oem' alternator from Craddocks - 105 amp -185 quid plus vat. 14.7 at the battery. But you have to have a big battery too - the 130amp hr one from Alphaline I think is about 96 quid delivered (overnight). Hope you get it sorted.

Grrrrrr · Apr 13, 2015

Datatek said:
13.4 volts is not a lot of good, should be an absolute minimum of 13.8 but 14.2 to 14.5 volts is normal except for some early cars. Petrol or diesel? Battery may be too small.

Maybe that was tickover rather than 2000 rpm?

67Rob · Apr 13, 2015

Datatek said:
13.4 volts is not a lot of good, should be an absolute minimum of 13.8 but 14.2 to 14.5 volts is normal except for some early cars. Petrol or diesel? Battery may be too small.

Petrol. Have spoken to the garage in Yarmouth and they are more than happy to refund what I paid for the battery as it's deffo too small.
Have bought this - Hankook Car Battery / Hankook Batteries / Batteries by Application

plumbfisher said:
Sorry to hear about that Rob. I'm not so sure about trusting that Halfrauds would supply the necessary. I just got a 'remanufactured oem' alternator from Craddocks - 105 amp -185 quid plus vat. 14.7 at the battery. But you have to have a big battery too - the 130amp hr one from Alphaline I think is about 96 quid delivered (overnight). Hope you get it sorted.

Thanks.
This is the alternator that they supplied - Delco Remy Alternator DRB4360 DB5470 ERR5834 | eBay

Grrrrrr said:
Maybe that was tickover rather than 2000 rpm?

It was, will check again.

Datatek · Apr 13, 2015

Check at 2K rpm, should be 14.5 volts on that one I think.

67Rob · Apr 13, 2015

Datatek said:
Check at 2K rpm, should be 14.5 volts on that one I think.

Hmmm, not good. Just checked at 2K rpm and it's only 13.0 volts.

Datatek · Apr 13, 2015

67Rob said:
Hmmm, not good. Just checked at 2K rpm and it's only 13.0 volts.

Either there is a bad connection from alternator to battery, or the earth strap from engine to chassis, chassis to battery.
Failing that, your new alternator is fecked.

67Rob · Apr 13, 2015

Datatek said:
Either there is a bad connection from alternator to battery, or the earth strap from engine to chassis, chassis to battery.
Failing that, your new alternator is fecked.

Could be alternator as it's now showing 13.47 at 2K.

Battery is showing 12.57 volts when swtched off.

Datatek · Apr 13, 2015

67Rob said:
Could be alternator as it's now showing 13.47 at 2K.

Battery is showing 12.57 volts when swtched off.

Battery voltage is OK ish. Still need to check all connections or put the meter direct on the alternator and see what you get.

tomcat59alan · Apr 13, 2015

Datatek said:
Battery voltage is OK ish. Still need to check all connections or put the meter direct on the alternator and see what you get.

Back at ya keith, see posts #3 and#9

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