Why should I use a charged service then when a bank transfer is better and free
The point with eBay is you can give the buyer the choice, eBay can see what goes on with PayPal so prefer it (and it's their company now, so, why not inforce it, that's just good business sense - if you don't like it use a different outlet to sell your crap)
You can also offer the buyer to use bank transfer if they prefer, or cash on collection or whatever.
Doesn't really answer the question surrounding why you're shill bidding / avoiding paying for the service you require...
Why should I use a charged service then when a bank transfer is better and free
you entered into a contract with them, and then you want there technology with out paying a fee. That would be like pirating movies/music. Or hacking someones bank account and taking money
suew
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In 2010 Paul Barrett became the first person to be prosecuted in the UK for bidding against himself on eBay (a practice often referred to as shill bidding). He was fined £3,500, ordered to pay costs of £1,456 and ordered to carry out 250 hours of unpaid work. On sentencing him Judge Peter Benson, sitting at Bradford Crown Court said that he only escaped a prison sentence because he had no previous convictions for dishonesty.
The prosecution was brought under the Business Protection from Misleading Marketing Regulations 2008 and the Consumer Protection from Unfair Trading Regulations 2008.
How do the Consumer Protection from Unfair Trading Regulations 2008 protect consumers from shill bidding?
The Consumer Protection from Unfair Trading Regulations 2008 prohibits unfair commercial practices.
The Regulations classify unfair commercial practices in two ways, those which are unfair where the practice causes a consumer to take a different decision and those which are always unfair.
The prosecution was brought under the Business Protection from Misleading Marketing Regulations 2008 and the Consumer Protection from Unfair Trading Regulations 2008.
How do the Consumer Protection from Unfair Trading Regulations 2008 protect consumers from shill bidding?
The Consumer Protection from Unfair Trading Regulations 2008 prohibits unfair commercial practices.
The Regulations classify unfair commercial practices in two ways, those which are unfair where the practice causes a consumer to take a different decision and those which are always unfair.
Yep
al irrelavent if seller ends listing
Shhh
No ones gonna get it for under 430
eBay own paypal so they won't let you sell now if you don't accept it as a form of payment as they're arse holes
Why should I use a charged service then when a bank transfer is better and free
Evidence collected
:lol::lol:
robint
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unfortuntly thats a load of bollocks because if ebay see it on the listing they delete listing for not useing there paypal system
robint
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robint
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he said it was his machine
blue beasty
Leaks an prone to bits dropping off
I use fleabay a fair it to buy stuff and I must admit it ****es me off when people fook about
robint
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Dr_evil
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what is wrong with that sale commission, all auctions have them?
Its not just sales they charge you on ..
Essentially its a crap corrupt system, I spent 5 months fighting them and won by simply calling in the financial ombudsman. They've been done by the high court before for holding money and using it to gain interest on it as in someone will request a refund and it'll be granted but wont appear in their account for another two months "due to technicalities" which is bull**** they were using it to spend on their own things, gain interest as obviously bigger wad of cash and so forth then refunding you when they had made a decent amount using your own cash.
They're not a registered bank as they were turned down for that too, they're just ****s
I don't want their technology .I joined ebay in 2007 and back then paypal was an option!
It should still be an option not an obligation ..they just want to take more of your cash and if people were being charged 20% like auctions on there I doubt many would be selling.
WTF???
eBay give you the different options to receive payments in a handy tick box option, they're not going to delete any auctions for people offering additional payment services, you are just required to offer PayPal... It's up to the buyer to decide which method they want to use, not eBay.
You can actually get away with using a gift card like an O2 one you'd spend in shops IIRC which really ####s with them
They're a bunch of ****s who need taking down a peg, Amazon payments don't charge you and they're a proper site unlike egay. I only use it if I'm forced to
you obviously haven't sold much on Amazon, their fees are massive, when i was selling on their we were paying 25% on every sale to Amazon - some items had nearly 90% fees. Now, that IS corrupt.
With eBay we were paying 5% on sales + the PayPal fees
suew
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No one forces you to use it, you use it because you think you will get a better price or advertise to a wide audience.
What you were doing works because people think the item must be worth the price because others are bidding on it. So basically you are misleading people and therefore it is illegal.
We see these practices a lot among the dodgy horse dealers. They either get a friend to stand at the ringside and bid against interested people. Or they get someone else to enter the horse in the sale and bid themselves. I actually enjoy watching them get stuck with the horse because the other bidders drop out before they expected them to (except for the poor horse of course)
Is that really how you want to be perceived on here, no better than any other dodgy dealer
Cant see other members being that keen to buy anything from you.
Dr_evil
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You're forced to accept it though and you should never accept paypal on a collection only item! Especially seeing as I'm not the one who listed it, you can't even list an item now without a paypal account linked to a card or bank now
