Hi Guys,

I run a specialist land rover breakers in Shropshire and i have just searched for myself on here and there are some nice encouraging comments which is nice, thanks.

Anyhow.........

We buy CAT B write off cars as many breakers do, most of the time we get keys for the cars we buy but sometimes they dont appear with the cars.

The 200 and 300 manuals we can get running with no keys no problems but we are struggling with the 300 Discovery autos with the EDC and the funny looking fuel inj pump. ( we dont have keys or the alarm plipper)

We can get them to crank over either with a screwdriver in the back of the barrel or by powering up the starter directly off the battery.

But we can not get any fuel through the pump up to the injectors.

We have removed the solonoid cover and powered up the solonoid directly too and it still does not seem to allow fuel to the injectors.

It is imperative that we run all our engines up to temperature in order to be confident that we are selling a good reliabel engine to folks like you fellow members.

Without being able to run them up we end up selling what may be a very good engine as a non runner!

This has become a problem at the moment as we are breaking 3 bloody autos this week!

They are late autos 1997-1999 and with the AMR6228 bosch diesel ECU in the drivers footwell.

Am i missing powering something up here that will allow fuel through? is the pump supposed to get a feed from the Diesel ECU as well ????????/

IM at a loss now and i need to get these running.

Now Td5s with no keys................well there lies another thread!

Thanks
Warwick Skan (Skan4x4Ltd)

The engine ecu has a security link with the alarm ecu,so without the right key and plip the only way to start the engine is by inputting the EKA code.This is normally done with the key in the drivers door - but if you dont have a key then you need to work out what to do in terms of switching at the back of the door lock barrel.
Unless the EKA code is entered to mobilise the ecu's there is pretty much no way they will ever go.
I did once meet a bloke from an ECU specialists who said he could remove the security functions from engine ecu's so you could just hook up a 12v supply to run it.May be worth getting one ecu done and keeping it just to use for testing engines ?

Thanks for clarifying that.
So would you maybe suggest talking to remote key ltd or someone like that.
Fromt what i have read it is only the green box (alarm ECU) and the plipper that you need to have as a pair????????

So essentially you could buy an EDC Auto engine and wiring harness from me and install it in your originally manual car so long as you had a paired alarm ecu and plipper? or am i way of track here lol!

What im trying to get at is that is the security bit in the edc ecu or is it in the alarm ecu that when it recognises the communication from the paired plipper it sends an 'OK TO GO' message to the EDC ECU? so any paired alarm box and plipper would activate any EDC ECU?

I hope thats clear lol

japanese re-import 300tdi auto don't have the alarm as standard....at least mine doesn't.....

you may try and locate an EDC from the jap re-import disco.....unplug the alarmed matched EDC....plug in the EDC from the jap re-import disco.....you should then be able to get the engine running......

the issue you are facing now is that the alarm/immobiliser remained active, which stops the EDC to "go"......and without the key or matched remote, you are in no way able to bypass the immobiliser....apart from getting an EDC that has not been matched to any alarm/immobiliser...

hope I am making sense....

skanny said:

Thanks for clarifying that.
So would you maybe suggest talking to remote key ltd or someone like that.
Fromt what i have read it is only the green box (alarm ECU) and the plipper that you need to have as a pair????????

So essentially you could buy an EDC Auto engine and wiring harness from me and install it in your originally manual car so long as you had a paired alarm ecu and plipper? or am i way of track here lol!

What im trying to get at is that is the security bit in the edc ecu or is it in the alarm ecu that when it recognises the communication from the paired plipper it sends an 'OK TO GO' message to the EDC ECU? so any paired alarm box and plipper would activate any EDC ECU?

I hope thats clear lol

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No,the edc ecu is paired to the alarm ecu with a code that is set in a learn mode with Testbook.So you need a fob,alarm ecu and edc ecu all paired to make it work in a conventional way.You cant use the edc system in a manual box car because the edc needs to read the crank sensor drillings which a manual flywheel wont have,nor a hole for the sensor itself .
I suppose the easiest way out for you is to get a fob coded up and then the alarm ecu coded to an edc ecu,(It has to be done in this order with Testbook) so you can keep them as a test set,then plug it into each car as you need to test them.
I have just coded up 2 fobs in this way with the 2 ecu's and sent them off to a stranded Disco somewhere in France,Plugged the ecu's into my own car to do it,owner is VERY happy now....

Right i think i understand!

Is this something you could do for us if i supplied all the parts?

Warwick

skanny said:

Right i think i understand!

Is this something you could do for us if i supplied all the parts?

Warwick

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Yes,no problem.