Darmain
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Not three bad and pretty much like what you've got. Could do with some of the wet stuff down here soon...... Ahhh, is that a good wish or not for laning??
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Widget
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Still got it - but we ent seen Dildo in a while so it was time to bring him out the closet.
Wot?
Darmain
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LOL, Kind of an acknowledgement I spoze. Sort of Wiltshire talk
Widget
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Loppity mucker. Go down the crammer and rake the moon.LOL, Kind of an acknowledgement I spoze. Sort of Wiltshire talk
Darmain
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Ere Widget, you be a Wiltshire man too? Very appt words to a man from my parts these.Loppity mucker. Go down the crammer and rake the moon.
Teflon
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James R,
God, (sorry!) Vince Cobley alone, Knows what your beef is!
So far I'm up to page 7 of this thread; the only one you seem to have contributed to, and as far as I can tell, have driven as a customer with Protrax, once, on Happy Valley, taken objection to some-one critasising something about Protrax, and spent the rest of the debate arguing wildly with every-one, indescriminately, with the actual comments being added, and contradicting yourself hugely in the arguments you are creating!
Very 'troll' like behaviour, to which accusation you have taken curiouse objection.... but then you've taken objection to everything, so it doesn't really matter, I guess!
Bizare!
Even for for the Zone!!
Cutting through a bit of the crap here; Protrax have a very BAD reputation; in wales, in Morocco, in the Lakes, in fact everywhere they are to be found leading thier 'adventures'......
For good reasons or bad, a lot of people dont like them very much. End of.
Moving swiftly on; the 'Tread Lightly' code, was not 'written' by GLASS, but an evolved and accepted guide to 'best practice' derived from advice generally pooled from participants in green laning, accross the spectum over many years.
Either way, the 'Code' whether law or not, is pretty much the 'standard' by which 'responsible' behaviour on the lanes might be judged.
Code says groups should be kept under five vehicles. More than that can REASONABLY be critasised as 'irresponsible', whether its illegal or not doesn't really matter here, does it?
First of all you claimed you were in a group of six..... on the large side of advised.... irresponsible..... not MUCH but still above code guidelines.
Next, you claim that you were in a group of 18?!?!
Sorry, run that past me again, which was it, 6 or 18?
Then we get, it was 18, but split into TWO groups.... OK, so now its 9.......
Or do you have some kind of wiered system of numerecy on your planet like hexidecimal, where eighteen divided by two is six, by some dint of intergallactic mathmatics, that explains all?
And we get the comment 'so what, its not illegal'.....
No, but it IS irresponsible!
As ALL the bloody numbers, you cant make your mind up over, are higher than the maximum of FIVE, provided for by the code of RESPONSIBLE practice!
Up to page 15.... and skipping through the bollox, including the nice scematics you have posted of the litteral ones!
And I have to ask; were those part of your briefing pack from planet 'R' to help identify us 'earthlings'......or.... hang on, post #195.... Oh! thats what you had the piccy for..........taking holy orders!
I find the out of context quote from the self proclaimed god of Green-Laning from another thread on another Forum!
Well, that's definative then, isn't it! Becouse the man at the head of the hydra, has deigned to comment on ONE incident his chuck-house outfit has come under critasism for, and found a plausible excuse for it..... ALL the scores of critasisms that pop up on the boards every time they take those bloody orange trucks out MUST be JUST as unfounded......
You know, even LRO readers got sick and tired of the self publicity the bloke does, and the mag at one point even stopped publishing the 'advice' he offered so readily becouse of the number of complaints the article generated!
I seem to recall one, on the topic of recovery, that had H&S executives screaming for withdrawals and retractions (THAT THE MAGAZINE PRINTED!) becouse so much of the advice he offered was pottentially LETHAL!
{Point of Note; Even on the LRO forum he's not flavour of the month! And curiousely, despite the adverts on the mag pages for his operations; few of the LRO'ers seem to avail themselves of them for some reason; even THEY are more want to head out on our 'freindlies', like the one I did with them this week-end! Not a cobler in sight!}
And we're now
We completely FAIL to accept the man who's a legend in his own lunch-break, and self proclaimed discoverer of off-roading and all things mud-based, the almighty who created the lanes for us, before he invented the persuit of driving them, and his arogance in running commercial excursions in controvention of ALL accepted 'good-practice' is 'Responsible'!
Oh....Kay.......
Page 18......
Ah, right, so on your planet the poles invert them selves, what, every twenty minutes?
Does it actually rotate, like the earth, or does it sort of oscilate like a rotary pendulum in an old fasioned carriage clock?
Up to Page 22 now and post #212 and a comment about people getting stuck, as though its impossible to drive lanes and NOT get stuck....... more, something that we should EXPECT.... even go looking for, becouse suggestion is, getting stuck is 'all part of the fun'!
Curiousely, it IS possible to drive the trails of this country without incident, and 'responsible' laners, remarkeably dont get stuck very often...... if at ALL!
Going 'looking' for the sort of trouble that gets Landies stuck I, though, was the kind of activity best saved for P&P days.....
But then I must be one of them loonie greenies appologising for driving a Landy, while sipping my real ale through my beared and picking the gunk from my toes through my sandals.......
Up to page.... I give up! Lost count, beginning to loose the will to LIVE now!
Post #234!
Oh..... Kay......
So your statements providing that they dont run their excursions to code, all the allogorical evidence they dont run thier excursions to code, all the critasisms of people who've been ON thier excursions, providing that they dont run them to code, and thier own bloody directors ADMISSIONS that they 'occassionally' infringe the ruddy code, are like......
**** it! Your NOT going to accept in any way shape of form that this outfit dont run to code, are you!
Just got to post #253.... err.... yeah, telling our DirtyGirtie to
God! (sorry, my mistake, correction) Vince Cobley! That bit was FUNNY!
Oh dear, up to page, thirty, far too many, and I think my brain is starting to melt......
We finally get some sort of reasoned 'discussion' appearing through the crap, and your unshifting possition, while your world gently oscillates around your ego, seems to to be to agree big groups are not in accordance with the code, but to then suggest that simply means that the 'code' must be wrong!
And ****ING HELL, its only six in the morning, and I've been sat here all night, but FINALLY got to the bloody end!
You are back to insisting that the Protrax group you were in was only of six vehicles, while big groups should be promoted, becouse its a pro-active stance against the anti's, and any-one who dissagrees with you is a wet, liberal minded apeasementist, with a penchant for real ale.....
And the conclusion is..........
You talk ****; Know ****; and I dont know why I'm bothering to GIVE a ****!
God, (sorry!) Vince Cobley alone, Knows what your beef is!
So far I'm up to page 7 of this thread; the only one you seem to have contributed to, and as far as I can tell, have driven as a customer with Protrax, once, on Happy Valley, taken objection to some-one critasising something about Protrax, and spent the rest of the debate arguing wildly with every-one, indescriminately, with the actual comments being added, and contradicting yourself hugely in the arguments you are creating!
Very 'troll' like behaviour, to which accusation you have taken curiouse objection.... but then you've taken objection to everything, so it doesn't really matter, I guess!
Bizare!
Even for for the Zone!!
Cutting through a bit of the crap here; Protrax have a very BAD reputation; in wales, in Morocco, in the Lakes, in fact everywhere they are to be found leading thier 'adventures'......
For good reasons or bad, a lot of people dont like them very much. End of.
Moving swiftly on; the 'Tread Lightly' code, was not 'written' by GLASS, but an evolved and accepted guide to 'best practice' derived from advice generally pooled from participants in green laning, accross the spectum over many years.
Either way, the 'Code' whether law or not, is pretty much the 'standard' by which 'responsible' behaviour on the lanes might be judged.
Code says groups should be kept under five vehicles. More than that can REASONABLY be critasised as 'irresponsible', whether its illegal or not doesn't really matter here, does it?
First of all you claimed you were in a group of six..... on the large side of advised.... irresponsible..... not MUCH but still above code guidelines.
Next, you claim that you were in a group of 18?!?!
Sorry, run that past me again, which was it, 6 or 18?
Then we get, it was 18, but split into TWO groups.... OK, so now its 9.......
Or do you have some kind of wiered system of numerecy on your planet like hexidecimal, where eighteen divided by two is six, by some dint of intergallactic mathmatics, that explains all?
And we get the comment 'so what, its not illegal'.....
No, but it IS irresponsible!
As ALL the bloody numbers, you cant make your mind up over, are higher than the maximum of FIVE, provided for by the code of RESPONSIBLE practice!
Up to page 15.... and skipping through the bollox, including the nice scematics you have posted of the litteral ones!
And I have to ask; were those part of your briefing pack from planet 'R' to help identify us 'earthlings'......or.... hang on, post #195.... Oh! thats what you had the piccy for..........taking holy orders!
I find the out of context quote from the self proclaimed god of Green-Laning from another thread on another Forum!
Well, that's definative then, isn't it! Becouse the man at the head of the hydra, has deigned to comment on ONE incident his chuck-house outfit has come under critasism for, and found a plausible excuse for it..... ALL the scores of critasisms that pop up on the boards every time they take those bloody orange trucks out MUST be JUST as unfounded......
You know, even LRO readers got sick and tired of the self publicity the bloke does, and the mag at one point even stopped publishing the 'advice' he offered so readily becouse of the number of complaints the article generated!
I seem to recall one, on the topic of recovery, that had H&S executives screaming for withdrawals and retractions (THAT THE MAGAZINE PRINTED!) becouse so much of the advice he offered was pottentially LETHAL!
{Point of Note; Even on the LRO forum he's not flavour of the month! And curiousely, despite the adverts on the mag pages for his operations; few of the LRO'ers seem to avail themselves of them for some reason; even THEY are more want to head out on our 'freindlies', like the one I did with them this week-end! Not a cobler in sight!}
And we're now
becouse, ****!
We completely FAIL to accept the man who's a legend in his own lunch-break, and self proclaimed discoverer of off-roading and all things mud-based, the almighty who created the lanes for us, before he invented the persuit of driving them, and his arogance in running commercial excursions in controvention of ALL accepted 'good-practice' is 'Responsible'!
Oh....Kay.......
Page 18......
Ah, right, so on your planet the poles invert them selves, what, every twenty minutes?
Does it actually rotate, like the earth, or does it sort of oscilate like a rotary pendulum in an old fasioned carriage clock?
Up to Page 22 now and post #212 and a comment about people getting stuck, as though its impossible to drive lanes and NOT get stuck....... more, something that we should EXPECT.... even go looking for, becouse suggestion is, getting stuck is 'all part of the fun'!
Curiousely, it IS possible to drive the trails of this country without incident, and 'responsible' laners, remarkeably dont get stuck very often...... if at ALL!
Going 'looking' for the sort of trouble that gets Landies stuck I, though, was the kind of activity best saved for P&P days.....
But then I must be one of them loonie greenies appologising for driving a Landy, while sipping my real ale through my beared and picking the gunk from my toes through my sandals.......
Up to page.... I give up! Lost count, beginning to loose the will to LIVE now!
Post #234!
Oh..... Kay......
So your statements providing that they dont run their excursions to code, all the allogorical evidence they dont run thier excursions to code, all the critasisms of people who've been ON thier excursions, providing that they dont run them to code, and thier own bloody directors ADMISSIONS that they 'occassionally' infringe the ruddy code, are like......
**** it! Your NOT going to accept in any way shape of form that this outfit dont run to code, are you!
Just got to post #253.... err.... yeah, telling our DirtyGirtie to
I think you might need to go back to that briefing pack with the genetalia schematics in it.... I think SHE already has a pair, but they probably wouldn't interest you!
God! (sorry, my mistake, correction) Vince Cobley! That bit was FUNNY!
Oh dear, up to page, thirty, far too many, and I think my brain is starting to melt......
We finally get some sort of reasoned 'discussion' appearing through the crap, and your unshifting possition, while your world gently oscillates around your ego, seems to to be to agree big groups are not in accordance with the code, but to then suggest that simply means that the 'code' must be wrong!
And ****ING HELL, its only six in the morning, and I've been sat here all night, but FINALLY got to the bloody end!
You are back to insisting that the Protrax group you were in was only of six vehicles, while big groups should be promoted, becouse its a pro-active stance against the anti's, and any-one who dissagrees with you is a wet, liberal minded apeasementist, with a penchant for real ale.....
And the conclusion is..........
You talk ****; Know ****; and I dont know why I'm bothering to GIVE a ****!
Teflon
New Member
It has been an entertaining thread though, got to give credit for that.
Not Really, we're in the middle of a 'Credit Crunch'; Credit is hard to come by.....
James R
New Member
HAHAHAHAHA! Teflon - sorry mate but you are an arse! You've just written an essay criticising me. That's 30 minutes of your life you won't get back.
My points are earnest and honest and, frankly, you've misunderstood, twisted my points for your own ends and generally trolling yourself in the vain hope that I will engage with you. I yet engage with you but can I be bothered reading a thesis? No. I'm flattered that my comments meant that much to you and sorry that you had to go to so much trouble but you must be more concise because I don't think anyone's interested in reading someone's analysis of everything I've ever said in this thread.
My points are earnest and honest and, frankly, you've misunderstood, twisted my points for your own ends and generally trolling yourself in the vain hope that I will engage with you. I yet engage with you but can I be bothered reading a thesis? No. I'm flattered that my comments meant that much to you and sorry that you had to go to so much trouble but you must be more concise because I don't think anyone's interested in reading someone's analysis of everything I've ever said in this thread.
nathan5346
Well-Known Member
only 1 troll on this thread and thats you
Teflon
New Member
You Know, I reckon, on Planet 'R', not only must maths work different, and logic completely escaped it, but grammer must be be founded on a completely different set of protocols as well.....
More and More Bizare.... if it gets any MORE surreal, Chanel 4 will be making a documentary on it!
Ming, this guys universe any where near yours?
Have you built a by-pass round it?
More and More Bizare.... if it gets any MORE surreal, Chanel 4 will be making a documentary on it!
Ming, this guys universe any where near yours?
Have you built a by-pass round it?
Dorset VogueSE
Well-Known Member
Is that because his analysis is spot on,
you can't maintain a consistent argument,
You can't maintain consistent facts,
You totally ignore everything that considered good practice because you dont agree with it
You suck Vince Cobleys dick
You aint got a fookin clue what you're on about
I have followed and contributed to this thread several times with key points that you have never bothered responding too.......
I thought I should therefore try a different approrach and have now tried to see this from your point of view....
but can't get my head that far up my own ARSE
Tim.C
Active Member
And your evidence for that ????
You haven't even bothered to read it, but you still know all about it.
Hmmm what does this tell us about your ability to weigh up evidence and make a decision?????
Tim.C
Active Member
OK I couldn't let that one lie, so just for entertainment....
if you're in hex 18 diveded by 2 is C so he's not in hex
Wait, I may have it; Base9
in base9 18 divided by 2 is 6 and a half......maybe one of them had a trailer
Darmain
Well-Known Member
This guy is taking the **** people. This forum is relaxed, friendly and **** take is part of the game. We all accept that and we enjoy it, otherwise we wouldn't be here.
This thread is different now. Its a wind up. As so many of you have said, the arguements are flawed and contradicting. Its arguement for arguments sake. James R is taking a lot of pleasure (for some bizarre reason) in getting the likes of Teflon hot under the collar and that is not fun any more. Teflon mate, you're right in all that you have written, but I'm afraid that James R has also made an accurate point. You have wasted your time working up an unnessary head of steam to type an tremendously impressive post to demonstrate that James R is a complete idiot. The trouble is it was unnessary because he has taunted you into doing just that for his pleasure. We know James R is an idiot and more bizarrely, James R knows hes a complete idiot as well. Its what he wants you to believe and he wants you to lash out. If you were in a pub with him you would have hit out at him. You can't do that here and he knows that.
I think that we only continue contributing to this thread if we want an arguement (Thinks of the Monty Python sketch). This thread has nothing to do with Happy Valley or Protrax. If its arguement you want then you're not going to win, that is clear and that is why I'm not going to enter into any dialogue regarding the laning issues (That and the funadamental point that I have very little experience about laning and therefore can not construct any informed arguements to apply).
Personally I think we all have better things to do, like talk about Landies, better still fix them go out and, who knows maybe we'll even drive them. I'm sure this guy must have crossed a few lines with the forum rules, relaxed as they are. I'm not going to delve into that as, as I said, I have better things to do, and besides thats the Moderators job. If I were a Mod then I would be thinking about checking this guys IP address to see if I can find any reason for why he is acting like he is. Who knows, maybe this is already happening.
This thread is different now. Its a wind up. As so many of you have said, the arguements are flawed and contradicting. Its arguement for arguments sake. James R is taking a lot of pleasure (for some bizarre reason) in getting the likes of Teflon hot under the collar and that is not fun any more. Teflon mate, you're right in all that you have written, but I'm afraid that James R has also made an accurate point. You have wasted your time working up an unnessary head of steam to type an tremendously impressive post to demonstrate that James R is a complete idiot. The trouble is it was unnessary because he has taunted you into doing just that for his pleasure. We know James R is an idiot and more bizarrely, James R knows hes a complete idiot as well. Its what he wants you to believe and he wants you to lash out. If you were in a pub with him you would have hit out at him. You can't do that here and he knows that.
I think that we only continue contributing to this thread if we want an arguement (Thinks of the Monty Python sketch). This thread has nothing to do with Happy Valley or Protrax. If its arguement you want then you're not going to win, that is clear and that is why I'm not going to enter into any dialogue regarding the laning issues (That and the funadamental point that I have very little experience about laning and therefore can not construct any informed arguements to apply).
Personally I think we all have better things to do, like talk about Landies, better still fix them go out and, who knows maybe we'll even drive them. I'm sure this guy must have crossed a few lines with the forum rules, relaxed as they are. I'm not going to delve into that as, as I said, I have better things to do, and besides thats the Moderators job. If I were a Mod then I would be thinking about checking this guys IP address to see if I can find any reason for why he is acting like he is. Who knows, maybe this is already happening.
Griffdowg
New Member
Tef - your post was a good summery of the 1st 62 pages well done.
Like I said earlier, the re invention of the thread has made the "happy valley" "protrax" situation worse for James as now there are more hits through google LEADING everyone this way talk about coming unstuck.
G
well done.Like I said earlier, the re invention of the thread has made the "happy valley" "protrax" situation worse for James as now there are more hits through google LEADING everyone this way
talk about coming unstuck.G
Richard Martin
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Tef, I think you better get a spell checker before you lay in to his grammar
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