RichM
Well-Known Member
**** in hell.. look at the rust!!
We're having a "Landy warming"... BURN IT!!!
Most of it is dry mud but it is worse than I'd like it to be. Same can be said for the whole car tbh.
Most of it is dry mud but it is worse than I'd like it to be. Same can be said for the whole car tbh.
Hippo
Lord Hippo
Here we go again. Us Freelander owners were happily discussing our eggsause problems and you have to interrupt wiff yer silly comments. For the record:WOW did you drive up on to those bits of wood al on ya own
Now im not into offroading but that second piccy is trying to prove what exactly??? Gaylanders can drive on three wheels, shirley the point of having a propper 4x4 is it will keep all its wheels on the ground, axle articulation i think it's called, please feel free to correct me if i am wrong
The first pic was put up to show the eggsause pipes under me Freelander. Mines the v6. Each model is a bit different in the eggsause department. Yes my Freelander did drive up the wooden blocks on its own. I have wooden ramps to help. They're cheap, safe, reliable and strong enough to do the job of supporting my Freelander whilst I work under it. I posted the pic as I thought it would be of interest to other Freelander owners.
The second pic was posted to show the beer barrel (eggsauce back box section) so others could see just how big it is, and how low it hangs. Posted as I thought this would be of interest to other Freelander owners too. My eggsauce has had a number of dents put in it, whilst off road. This is the only suitable pic of my Freelanders eggsause, I have, to show as part of this thread.
I would also like to take you up on your kind offer of correction:
Axle articulation isnt the bestist thing when off roading. I would agree keeping all 4 wheel on the ground gives betterer traction. Hence why independent suspension is so fantastic on a Freelander. Where the Freelander excels as an off roader is the fact that it's light, nimble and equipped (most of em) with an amazing traction control setup. Hence I only need one wheel with grip, to drive forwards. Hence axle articulation isn't that important, as I will demonstrate. When cross axled as on the above pic, traction control stops spinning wheels from spinning, thus delivering power to the wheels which have grip. Hence my Freelander was able to drive over the axle twister, without all 4 wheels on the ground, at the same time. The tratter option is to supply power to the wheels with the least grip, when cross axled. The centre diff when locked allows the same thing to happen. In lay mans terms, **** all help. The above pic was taken at a well known LR shows off road course. Owners could put their vehicles and their driving skills to the test. Proof mine went over the axle twister can be shown in many of the photo's I've already posted. Some however, struggled. Here's the video as proof my Freelander went over the axle twister ok:
313 seconds:
LRO Show 2010 part 1 of 2 Land Rover Freelander 1 v6 Off Road
And a quick pic of my Freelander in action, at the same time the video was recorded. Note, only 2 wheels on the ground:
2347 LmGM5JR
So **** off yer sad tratter bastid. At least mine went over the axle twister without assistance from the marshals. Un the doors din't fall orf anorl.
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Hippo
Lord Hippo
Well spotted. I helped a bit. . .wot? No driver?
Greenie
New Member
Don't you mean FREELANDERS = ****
Freelanders are good off roaders!!.. its just that they keep braking down! like all landrovers!! yours included
nobby!!:blabla:
Spacemonkey...
Well-Known Member
Should have bought an L series- mine only has a back box, no middle box to explode..
Streetlander
Active Member
the 'Biscuit Tin brigade' aren't happy unless you show pics of your mig welder (and welding achievements), your Landie on a crazy angle with ALL 4 wheels on the ground (supported by ohhhh's and ahhhh's), and lots n lots n lots of MUD! (especially with the wheels sunk into a bog)
They love that stuff!
..........oh and bagging Freelanders!!! (in between welding bits on their buscuit tins)
They love that stuff!
..........oh and bagging Freelanders!!!
(in between welding bits on their buscuit tins)
Streetlander
Active Member
...... is that all you picked on!?
spell checker wasnt on.
So I gather from that, the rest is true, as I imagined!! lmao
spell checker wasnt on.
So I gather from that, the rest is true, as I imagined!! lmao
freelander2002
Active Member
Well said hippo
oldskool
Well-Known Member
Errrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr mines never broken down, i am the 2nd owner i knew the first owner and apart from the occasional boost pipe and normal servicing and repairs it's been 100% reliable and it's worked for a living all it's life (and still is) and has been to most ski resorts in europe. It's now done 229000 + miles is on it's second clutch, original turbo and head gasket. Yes it has a few rust issues but for a 14yr old vehicle with a questionable build quality it ain't to bad (have seen worse).Freelanders are good off roaders!!..COMPARED TO WHAT?? its just that they keep braking down! like all landrovers!! yours included
nobby!!:blabla:
I didn't see any pics of freelanders towing stuff in the snow we had, wonder why that was :scratching_chin:saw a couple of them being towed though :doh:
It's also one of the best tow vehicles ive ever had
fook me Hippo could you have gone any slower? tried to watch the vid but started to snooze halfway through
ok to settle the argument once and for all I think an FL should go on a decent laning day with some discos/defenders/series etc.
I will hopefully be taking my 110 (currently on 235/70 disco road tyres) out in a couple of weeks for some mild laning around north yorks area(funds permitting). just a few muddy trails and some rocky tracks and would love for someone in a gaylander to come along and show us how great they are
if you get stuck we will pull you out but not until piccys have been taken first, same as anyone really oh and heres a great off roading freelander with AT tyres showing us how well they do
[nomedia="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R339FuT5BCY"]YouTube - Freelander stuck... Never![/nomedia]
:blah: :blah:
like this you mean - over Salisbury Plain
Newbies Salisbury Trip pictures by the_mad_hat_man - Photobucket
or this? Snifflebags Swansong pictures by the_mad_hat_man - Photobucket
It managed the "Bone-shaker" with some aplomb - and that was a surprise, for those that know it.
just tryin to put an end to the bickering daft, can be funny but then it just gets repetitive and brainless.
goes round and round, threads keep going back to fls are great others are ****e rusty unreliable, my vcu is better than your difflock etc etc :doh:
personally dont care what folk drive but should they really be compared? its like comparing a rally spec to standard car.
they both have 3/5 doors, 4 wheels etc but have completely different uses
and before anyone comments im not calling any LR rally spec just trying to point out they are so different its an endless argument
yeah but, no but, yeah but - yu will never stop the bickering, finger pointing and sniggering.It is human nature. Rather an unpleasant one but a human frailty to point the point and snigger at those that are not the same as you.
Series are always sniggered at for being noisy and uncomfortable.
Discos are always ridiculed for being rust buckets.
Defenders are laughed at for being cold, uncomfortable and without any "mod-cons".
Blacks are persecuted for being "different".
Adt is bullied for being, erm, well Ady.
Freelanders will always be pointed out as the "soft option" as far as Land rovers are concerned, but they are not designed to compete with other Land rovers, they are designed to allow Landrover to compete in a niche market place that the other Land rovers cant.
Given the option of an X5, a Merc or a Volvo or a Defender, to use as a "chelsea tractor", but with 4wd for use in bad conditions, who would choose a Defender - not many?
To some up, but change your statement, it is not an endless arguement, but a pointless one.
Peeps will always pick on the weakest - unfortunately.
Series are always sniggered at for being noisy and uncomfortable.
Discos are always ridiculed for being rust buckets.
Defenders are laughed at for being cold, uncomfortable and without any "mod-cons".
Blacks are persecuted for being "different".
Adt is bullied for being, erm, well Ady.
Freelanders will always be pointed out as the "soft option" as far as Land rovers are concerned, but they are not designed to compete with other Land rovers, they are designed to allow Landrover to compete in a niche market place that the other Land rovers cant.
Given the option of an X5, a Merc or a Volvo or a Defender, to use as a "chelsea tractor", but with 4wd for use in bad conditions, who would choose a Defender - not many?
To some up, but change your statement, it is not an endless arguement, but a pointless one.
Peeps will always pick on the weakest - unfortunately
.Quite right Bobbler, it's a stupid argument
I've never had a Series or Defender but in 3O years I've had several Range Rovers and a couple of Discoverys.
Each has it's merits
The Series/Defender conquored the world, is the mutts nuts in the rough but tiresome on a motorway
The TD5 series 2 Disco was the best vehicle I have ever owned and driven
... but cost far more in maintenance and repairs than any other - though most of that - at least the expensive stuff, was covered under warranty
An old Rangie was great fun and comfortable, a new one is good if you're gonna run some Sheiks around..... and there's the Rangie Sport if you're serious about selling drugs
For road work and occassional muddy lanes the Freelander is superb in it's class - in fact in the snow on the roads for the last couple of years I have found it to be the best of the bunch.
now,
I've gotta jump in the TD4 and get back to the hair salon - customers waiting
I've never had a Series or Defender but in 3O years I've had several Range Rovers and a couple of Discoverys.
Each has it's merits
The Series/Defender conquored the world, is the mutts nuts in the rough but tiresome on a motorway
The TD5 series 2 Disco was the best vehicle I have ever owned and driven
... but cost far more in maintenance and repairs than any other - though most of that - at least the expensive stuff, was covered under warranty
An old Rangie was great fun and comfortable, a new one is good if you're gonna run some Sheiks around..... and there's the Rangie Sport if you're serious about selling drugs
For road work and occassional muddy lanes the Freelander is superb in it's class - in fact in the snow on the roads for the last couple of years I have found it to be the best of the bunch.
now,
I've gotta jump in the TD4 and get back to the hair salon - customers waiting
yeah but, no but, yeah but - yu will never stop the bickering, finger pointing and sniggering.It is human nature. Rather an unpleasant one but a human frailty to point the point and snigger at those that are not the same as you.
Series are always sniggered at for being noisy and uncomfortable.
Discos are always ridiculed for being rust buckets.
Defenders are laughed at for being cold, uncomfortable and without any "mod-cons".
Blacks are persecuted for being "different".
Adt is bullied for being, erm, well Ady.
Freelanders will always be pointed out as the "soft option" as far as Land rovers are concerned, but they are not designed to compete with other Land rovers, they are designed to allow Landrover to compete in a niche market place that the other Land rovers cant.
Given the option of an X5, a Merc or a Volvo or a Defender, to use as a "chelsea tractor", but with 4wd for use in bad conditions, who would choose a Defender - not many?
To some up, but change your statement, it is not an endless arguement, but a pointless one.
Peeps will always pick on the weakest - unfortunately
completely agree other than the defender comparison, would have stuck the RR L322 in there which is possibly the best of that bunch imo. refined, comfortable, capable although still flawed with reliability issues
defender has a pretty small comparison area, things like the merc G-wagon are similar and I know what i'd choose funds allowing
the G Wagon
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woosh!????completely agree other than the defender comparison, would have stuck the RR L322 in there which is possibly the best of that bunch imo. refined, comfortable, capable although still flawed with reliability issues
defender has a pretty small comparison area, things like the merc G-wagon are similar and I know what i'd choose funds allowing
the G Wagon
I think yu missed the complete point :doh:
peeps on here are comparing the defender with the Gaylander - it just cannot be compared!
