holidaychicken
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Dreams are boring, nightmares are much more fun 
Just another thought, is it possible to get the fault codes read to see exactly what is causing the EML?
Just another thought, is it possible to get the fault codes read to see exactly what is causing the EML?
Thank you very much for your replies and advice fellas, very much appreciated.
I will endeavor to find out what turbos they intend to fit and do some research.
Not sure if it's something that could be done such as getting another RR and immediately taking it for a complete check up to see if there were any faults. It's my understanding that if there's anything wrong with the car that were there at the point of sale, the garage have to fix it within the first 30 days. However, if it's not going to be cost effective for them, they could just take the car back and refund the money, which leaves me back at square one.
The two main draws, apart from the RR itself, is that it was priced slightly under market price and the main one being the warranty that comes along with it. I accept that the beast is going to cost over the next few years and the warranty certainly mitigates that. I did have a look at a couple of other warranty sites but none of them would touch anything over 120,000.
I could hold out and wait for another RR, however not being as savvy as I'd like regarding used cars, I fear I could end up with a motor in a similar or worse state, knackered turbo etc, not know it and not have a warranty to help me out.
I will endeavor to find out what turbos they intend to fit and do some research.
Not sure if it's something that could be done such as getting another RR and immediately taking it for a complete check up to see if there were any faults. It's my understanding that if there's anything wrong with the car that were there at the point of sale, the garage have to fix it within the first 30 days. However, if it's not going to be cost effective for them, they could just take the car back and refund the money, which leaves me back at square one.
The two main draws, apart from the RR itself, is that it was priced slightly under market price and the main one being the warranty that comes along with it. I accept that the beast is going to cost over the next few years and the warranty certainly mitigates that. I did have a look at a couple of other warranty sites but none of them would touch anything over 120,000.
I could hold out and wait for another RR, however not being as savvy as I'd like regarding used cars, I fear I could end up with a motor in a similar or worse state, knackered turbo etc, not know it and not have a warranty to help me out.
holidaychicken
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My main point would be that if it is faulty then either the garage or warranty should cover it regardless of what their margin is.
If it has been parked up for a while then it is feasible the turbo actuators could be sticky, or it could genuinely need new turbos, you need to know what fault codes it has which will have been logged which may give you some idea.
Did you notice power problems or limp mode when the light came on or when did it occur?
if you trust the garage and they are genuinely trying to put it right then its a maybe, replacing the turbos is expensive, if you can get them replaced with brand new genuine units for little outlay then it is probably the most expensive problem you could face as transmissions seem pretty solid as do the engines but do yourself some research.
The warranty companies are genuinely pretty ruthless in what they do and don't cover and i would imagine they will try and avoid paying anything if they can but again i don't know what cover you have.
i purchased my 04 at about £1000 - £1500 under market value and then went on to rebuild the transmission, the front suspension (failed when i arrived home from collecting it), all the front and rear suspension arms and bushes, rebuilt the timing chain and vanos, new battery, new water pump and a whole load of other stuff i have forgotten so my bargain price diminished into negative equity quite rapidly. That is not to say i wouldn't have had to replace all those things if i had paid full market price.
I would be looking at what service history the car has, although mine had been fabricated as somebody obviously made a mistake when filling in all the mileage for the different services as then had to go back and change them.
They are a delightful vehicle when working well, the only reason they normally get sold is you like them so much and have a lot of money so you can afford to upgrade to a newer one, or its fooked and you want to cut your losses and pass it on to somebody else to fix up. The third reason normally involves child birth of some sort and your driving for fun is over
If it has been parked up for a while then it is feasible the turbo actuators could be sticky, or it could genuinely need new turbos, you need to know what fault codes it has which will have been logged which may give you some idea.
Did you notice power problems or limp mode when the light came on or when did it occur?
if you trust the garage and they are genuinely trying to put it right then its a maybe, replacing the turbos is expensive, if you can get them replaced with brand new genuine units for little outlay then it is probably the most expensive problem you could face as transmissions seem pretty solid as do the engines but do yourself some research.
The warranty companies are genuinely pretty ruthless in what they do and don't cover and i would imagine they will try and avoid paying anything if they can but again i don't know what cover you have.
i purchased my 04 at about £1000 - £1500 under market value and then went on to rebuild the transmission, the front suspension (failed when i arrived home from collecting it), all the front and rear suspension arms and bushes, rebuilt the timing chain and vanos, new battery, new water pump and a whole load of other stuff i have forgotten so my bargain price diminished into negative equity quite rapidly. That is not to say i wouldn't have had to replace all those things if i had paid full market price.
I would be looking at what service history the car has, although mine had been fabricated as somebody obviously made a mistake when filling in all the mileage for the different services as then had to go back and change them.
They are a delightful vehicle when working well, the only reason they normally get sold is you like them so much and have a lot of money so you can afford to upgrade to a newer one, or its fooked and you want to cut your losses and pass it on to somebody else to fix up. The third reason normally involves child birth of some sort and your driving for fun is over
gold rover
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Slightly offended, at assumption, but will still try to help.
@Monoloco , you seem stuck on the fact you got this veh under book price. Personally, I'd say forget all about that. Lots of us do , it is the state of the veh that is important. @holidaychicken got his under book price and immediately had to spend money. I got mine £3.5k under book ,with a good warranty and had around 2.5yrs easy motoring with her , before things started going pear shaped. You have been incredibly unlucky, in the sense that the issues have occurred immediately but lucky because you have a warranty , that claims to cover everything.Also it is not up to the garage to just take it back. You have a contract ( the sale , not the warranty) and all parties must agree on what happens.
For all the back and forth, there is really only one question: do you keep it and, with all your new knowledge, make them fix it OR hand it back?
If you're not sure about buying second hand get whoever normally looks after your vehs to help you out. Or get the AA to look over any you are seriously considering. Or ask on here , if anyone is close enough, could they help you out.
Slightly offended of landyzone, Out.
@Monoloco , you seem stuck on the fact you got this veh under book price. Personally, I'd say forget all about that. Lots of us do , it is the state of the veh that is important. @holidaychicken got his under book price and immediately had to spend money. I got mine £3.5k under book ,with a good warranty and had around 2.5yrs easy motoring with her , before things started going pear shaped. You have been incredibly unlucky, in the sense that the issues have occurred immediately but lucky because you have a warranty , that claims to cover everything.Also it is not up to the garage to just take it back. You have a contract ( the sale , not the warranty) and all parties must agree on what happens.
For all the back and forth, there is really only one question: do you keep it and, with all your new knowledge, make them fix it OR hand it back?
If you're not sure about buying second hand get whoever normally looks after your vehs to help you out. Or get the AA to look over any you are seriously considering. Or ask on here , if anyone is close enough, could they help you out.
Slightly offended of landyzone, Out.
Moron
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Something you need to be aware of ........the turbos failing can a sympton of the main problem..........engine bottom end failure........not uncommon on the TD V8 , normally a garage would fit new turbos and then now the engine is receiving full boost , the main and big end failure would become apparent...........not to say thats deffenatly your problem , but I wouldn't bet against it
The fact it was under priced was to draw some one in ..........
The fact it was under priced was to draw some one in ..........
Dopey
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Dam it... will you change your sex please???
gold rover
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holidaychicken
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Where did the slightly offended bit come from, have i missed something ?
gold rover
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holidaychicken
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ooohh shiieet, i missed that, i have considered changing my sex to a male, it's normally about 3 in the AM and the heels are really starting to rub and Alan has fecked off with my handbag again and not come back leaving me looking a mess and without any bus fare
gold rover
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I've told you before , always keep bus fare in your bra. There's enough room in there that even with a thorough search Alan won't find itooohh shiieet, i missed that, i have considered changing my sex to a male, it's normally about 3 in the AM and the heels are really starting to rub and Alan has fecked off with my handbag again and not come back leaving me looking a mess and without any bus fare
gold rover
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It's always easier to go with the flow
gold rover
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I really am very appreciative of the advice. Thank you for taking the time for someone who appears to be at worst an idiot, at best a novice!
Apologies for the offending 'Fellas' comment. It's a verbal twitch used for, well, everyone from a former life. Included could have been matelot, pongo, crow, crab and rupert.
It has been pointed out to me, ref the RR, that I've been asked for £1000 to repair two turbos. Currently, only one is faulty and covered by the Consumer Protection Act. The second, they fear may go wrong in the future. That one is covered by the Warranty, which means another £1800 for whoever. So in an attempt to save themselves the price of replacing the second turbo, if/ when it goes wrong, they are attempting to get cash out of me now to save £1800 they may have to pay out in the future.
I think I may go back and tell them to repair what is faulty at point of sale and nothing more. No pre-emptive work as the warranty will cover that post CPA timeframe.
Apologies for the offending 'Fellas' comment. It's a verbal twitch used for, well, everyone from a former life. Included could have been matelot, pongo, crow, crab and rupert.
It has been pointed out to me, ref the RR, that I've been asked for £1000 to repair two turbos. Currently, only one is faulty and covered by the Consumer Protection Act. The second, they fear may go wrong in the future. That one is covered by the Warranty, which means another £1800 for whoever. So in an attempt to save themselves the price of replacing the second turbo, if/ when it goes wrong, they are attempting to get cash out of me now to save £1800 they may have to pay out in the future.
I think I may go back and tell them to repair what is faulty at point of sale and nothing more. No pre-emptive work as the warranty will cover that post CPA timeframe.
