alfapat
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Yes it does , will try that first today .
sierrafery
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The battery reset is useless in this case IMO, as i said you need t recalibrate the EAS system, i dont know how GAP works but here's the procedure with nanocom and it should be quite similar with GAP too.
alfapat
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Doing guided calibration on four corners will complete , an error E16 appears on GAP . Got to Active Roll cal and e red error appears on the dash and this fault
S I will try battery reset , there seems to be a confusion between modules
S I will try battery reset , there seems to be a confusion between modulesYep done that
alfapat
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I saw a guy on you tube resolving the code I get , Sorry the pic I put on is not very clear its Code C1A00-54 and he puts the fault down after calibrating height after sensor replacement then it muddles the Suspension module , he suggests putting the Susp. system out of tight tolerance to normal . Not sure if GAP DOES THIS HE SAYS.
sierrafery
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I'm sure that this happens cos unfortunately you dont know exactly what to do, neither do i when it comes to that GAP tool, what i know is that there are certain steps to follow and missing one step or the order of them the whole thing is mixed up, happened to me too... keep trying cos untill the end you should learn what to do.
seems that you did something wrong cos with that code the system "thinks" that you replaced the module, if you have a configuration option for the dynamic response module give that a go
That GAP tool doesnt have a clear user guide like nanocom? there is another thing mentioned in nanocom's EAS guide, even if they say it's not necessary it might be.
seems that you did something wrong cos with that code the system "thinks" that you replaced the module, if you have a configuration option for the dynamic response module give that a go
That GAP tool doesnt have a clear user guide like nanocom? there is another thing mentioned in nanocom's EAS guide, even if they say it's not necessary it might be.
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alfapat
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I get the facility to re-enable EAS as you say I may be missing something. I'll have another look , there is a facility that I can flash an ecu , suffice to say I have avoided it so far , might be brave later!
"thinks" that you replaced the module, if you have a configuration option for the dynamic response module give that a go
As in CCF FILES
"thinks" that you replaced the module, if you have a configuration option for the dynamic response module give that a go
As in CCF FILES
sierrafery
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Keep avoiding that cos it needs files to be loaded which must come from LR, that facility will not help now IMO
alfapat
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Yes I have done , avoid that is . I Flashed the engine ecu before when I requested the standard mapping from GAP , as when I bought it the owner had it mapped for power and economy and it kept giving a fuel regulation problem . Anyway I digress , it worked .
Back to this I have tried tight tolerence and then normal tolerence and re-enabled but to no difference.
Back to this I have tried tight tolerence and then normal tolerence and re-enabled but to no difference.
Graculus
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Have you tried contacting GAP about this? they may have come across this before - also, are you doubly sure the height sensor is the correct one? The height information is broadcast from the RLM to the ARC on HS-CAN, so the root error must be on the air suspension side - have you replaced the corroded connections? until you can get a reliable signal from the height sensors, everything else is pointless. I think LRparts do a connector replacement kit.
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alfapat
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No not contacted yet .So I have included a couple of photos I have extracted out of the GAP manual .
Maybe try again on calibration , guided maybe , but have done this and got the error E16 . GAP CONTACT NEEDED!
Yes that is the part I replaced from lrdirect , once fitted the orange anti roll light disappeared but now the comms. error
sierrafery
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As you see that reflashing procedure is for the case when you replace the compressor on early modells... better concentrate on other things IMO
Graculus
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As mentioned in post 47 above, the DTC suggests an unconfigured module - which shouldn't happen as a result of calibrating suspension height. I have no experience of GAP IID, the screens you posted don't really give any insight either - I strongly suggest you either restore the ARC from backup if possible, or contact GAP for assistance as anything else is likely to make things worse not better.
alfapat
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No not contacted yet .
Yes the same , three pin , Brittpart
Graculus
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I think part of the problem is that GAP hoped they'd capture the 'occupational user' market but mainly due to their pricing/licencing model ended up with the end-user market - without the infrastructure in support (help files, onscreen guidance etc.) or backend resources for tech. queries.
I'm also not convinced that condensing everything onto a single phone screen is a good user interface, especially if you're working on the vehicle on a diagnosis task where you may need to see several live values / actuation results concurrently.
I'm also not convinced that condensing everything onto a single phone screen is a good user interface, especially if you're working on the vehicle on a diagnosis task where you may need to see several live values / actuation results concurrently.
alfapat
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I suppose if you consider a large diagnostic that has to do 100 more vehicles of different types then I would say fair enough , this is good but for a few Land Rovers specifically then the interface can be smaller.
Anyway , I have communicated with GAP and they want the faults off their menu sent to them off the tool so if they say that it should be available to enter normal tolerance for the module. Holidays etc , will see what happens.
Graculus
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For the older stuff I use an Autologic unit, in the 17 years I've owned it, it's never caused me problems in the same way as the ones GAP IID seemingly cause people.
Yes, it's long in the tooth now (it runs embedded Windows 95!) but it works, and doesn't cause things not to work, for the newer stuff I use SDD or a borrowed Autel.
The Autel has to be capable of 'all makes' but the Autologic is very definitely LR-only but with a solid base of software tried & tested before release, knowledge and online / on phone backup (or at least it did until 2016 when I 'retired' it from commercial use). GAP seem to be doing the same as a lot of software developers and having everything defined as 'in beta testing', which makes the buyers the test mules and gives them a get-out if/when unintended consequences happen. I suppose the other consideration is that in business, particularly vehicle workshops, time really is money, whereas if you're working on your own vehicle, then your time has no cost so therefore no value to GAP.
Despite how the above reads, I'm not 'anti-GAP', just very cautious - I don't know of any independent LR workshops that use it, which would be an indicator of the value to which it's held.
Yes, it's long in the tooth now (it runs embedded Windows 95!) but it works, and doesn't cause things not to work, for the newer stuff I use SDD or a borrowed Autel.
The Autel has to be capable of 'all makes' but the Autologic is very definitely LR-only but with a solid base of software tried & tested before release, knowledge and online / on phone backup (or at least it did until 2016 when I 'retired' it from commercial use). GAP seem to be doing the same as a lot of software developers and having everything defined as 'in beta testing', which makes the buyers the test mules and gives them a get-out if/when unintended consequences happen. I suppose the other consideration is that in business, particularly vehicle workshops, time really is money, whereas if you're working on your own vehicle, then your time has no cost so therefore no value to GAP.
Despite how the above reads, I'm not 'anti-GAP', just very cautious - I don't know of any independent LR workshops that use it, which would be an indicator of the value to which it's held.
sierrafery
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Maybe because it's VIN locked as it was developped mainly for personal use only for the reasons which you revealed
