Yep, slipped liners are much easier to deal with
But.
Ok I give up, but I have more smiles pre mile
.When it is running
.J
But.
Ok I give up, but I have more smiles pre mile
.When it is running
.J
Datatek
Well-Known Member
Nowt wrong with the M51 but you could be into a whole lot of different problems with that set up BECM etc. I would not touch such a conversion.Thanks for all the replies but today i'm going to see a P38 thats had a HS 2.8 TGV engine conversion so hopefully all the M51 lump and its associated problems have been eliminated
cbv8
Member
Thank you for all the P38 advice its really appreciated but i have decided to go for an L322 4.4tdv8 not that there is anything wrong with a P38 but think its something i need to get out my system and i have had P38s but never an L322 yes i may regret it but until i try it i will never know
Datatek
Well-Known Member
Thank you for all the P38 advice its really appreciated but i have decided to go for an L322 4.4tdv8 not that there is anything wrong with a P38 but think its something i need to get out my system and i have had P38s but never an L322 yes i may regret it but until i try it i will never know
Glutton for punishment
Thank you for all the P38 advice its really appreciated but i have decided to go for an L322 4.4tdv8 not that there is anything wrong with a P38 but think its something i need to get out my system and i have had P38s but never an L322 yes i may regret it but until i try it i will never know
The P38A will shaft you but the L322 will spit-roast you.
At 140k I'd want to see new FIP, new radius-arm bushes and ball-joints, new viscous coupling on the transfer box, new brake lines and no sign of overheating or the like or I'd be thinking new head required. Head gaskets aren't common on the M51 as fitted to the P38A but cracked heads are. After that it is the usual EAS issues and for anything post-99 the 4W TC can be a bit troublesome sometimes.
cbv8
Member
Hi All,
Thanks again for all the helpful replies so an update it's taken all this hivering and hovering to finally make my mind up and so tomorrow i am going to view the 2000 P38 DSE automatic i was initially going to see but didn't i think the L322 is a bit rich for my blood at the moment and am quite looking forward to viewing the P38 If i do buy it which i think is highly likely if all is as the seller describes i will be removing the viscous fan and all the a/c bits sorry purists but i want reliability and i know for a fact i will NEVER use the a/c in England pmsl not a chance Datatek could you please share your a/c fan cooling mod with me as i really want to do this mod but need an idiots guide to do so elecs are not really my thing the P38 i am going to view is on springs so another thing not to worry about thanks in advance
Thanks again for all the helpful replies so an update it's taken all this hivering and hovering to finally make my mind up and so tomorrow i am going to view the 2000 P38 DSE automatic i was initially going to see but didn't i think the L322 is a bit rich for my blood at the moment and am quite looking forward to viewing the P38
If i do buy it which i think is highly likely if all is as the seller describes i will be removing the viscous fan and all the a/c bits sorry purists but i want reliability and i know for a fact i will NEVER use the a/c in England pmsl not a chance Datatek could you please share your a/c fan cooling mod with me as i really want to do this mod but need an idiots guide to do so elecs are not really my thing the P38 i am going to view is on springs so another thing not to worry about thanks in advance
Hi All,
Thanks again for all the helpful replies so an update it's taken all this hivering and hovering to finally make my mind up and so tomorrow i am going to view the 2000 P38 DSE automatic i was initially going to see but didn't i think the L322 is a bit rich for my blood at the moment and am quite looking forward to viewing the P38
Sorry but keeping ac is not just to cool you the cars internal electrics like the drier air, as funny as that seems so I would keep it.
Springs
.If you are gonna buy a good 1, this 1 ain’t, sorry just me
.Things are only unreliable cos owners let little things go un fixed then they turn into “there’s a major problem with all of these cars”
J
cbv8
Member
I appreciate your comments but i like uncomplicated there are some owners with a/c removed and running a/c fans for cooling with no problems i do like eas but not the extra worry that goes with it if it already has springs that's fine with me and lets face it there are lots out there running springs with no problems. I agree about cars being unreliable due to neglect and using cheap parts but i do know the P38 had dodgy elecs from day one so if removing some of these inherent gremlins to improve reliability and keep the cars on the surely this has to be a good thing
IMO, taking the AC off is, at the very least, unnecessary.. leaving it broken when it goes wrong might be one thing, but actively taking it off ...
A P38 on coils loses more than half the advantage of the '38 .. the air ride is sublime, and the EAS is not that complex.. Plus, you have the issue that it is not as it left the factory - this might be classed as a major change, and thus be subject to SVA ... You might also struggle to get insurance..
A P38 on coils loses more than half the advantage of the '38 .. the air ride is sublime, and the EAS is not that complex.. Plus, you have the issue that it is not as it left the factory - this might be classed as a major change, and thus be subject to SVA ... You might also struggle to get insurance..
Datatek
Well-Known Member
A stupid move to remove the aircon, it keeps the interior dry to the benefit of the BECM and other electronics, it is also very reliable. Damp is a killer for the electronics and connectors.Hi All,
Thanks again for all the helpful replies so an update it's taken all this hivering and hovering to finally make my mind up and so tomorrow i am going to view the 2000 P38 DSE automatic i was initially going to see but didn't i think the L322 is a bit rich for my blood at the moment and am quite looking forward to viewing the P38
You cannot do my mod if you remove all the aircon stuff.
Datatek
Well-Known Member
"the P38 had dodgy elecs from day one so if removing some of these inherent gremlins to improve reliability" Removing the aircon will decrease reliability but go ahead and ruin the car if that is your wish.I appreciate your comments but i like uncomplicated there are some owners with a/c removed and running a/c fans for cooling with no problems i do like eas but not the extra worry that goes with it if it already has springs that's fine with me and lets face it there are lots out there running springs with no problems. I agree about cars being unreliable due to neglect and using cheap parts but i do know the P38 had dodgy elecs from day one so if removing some of these inherent gremlins to improve reliability and keep the cars on the surely this has to be a good thing
You could buy a pre-wrecked one with coils and no aircon for less money
The EAS has been trouble free on my daily driver for years now after I overhauled it. You must remember, a Range Rover is not a car, it's a hobby.
cbv8
Member
Dantak,"the P38 had dodgy elecs from day one so if removing some of these inherent gremlins to improve reliability" Removing the aircon will decrease reliability but go ahead and ruin the car if that is your wish.
You could buy a pre-wrecked one with coils and no aircon for less money
The EAS has been trouble free on my daily driver for years now after I overhauled it. You must remember, a Range Rover is not a car, it's a hobby.
You misunderstood my meaning i think ie if the eas system has been left in place except the airbags i would probably try to re fit new air bags but if its all been ripped out it would be a major job refitting everything i definitely don't want to ruin the car if as you say the a/c by removing the a/c will decrease reliability it will stay but i know it will never be used.I am not the wrecker of cars just the opposite in fact i have owned many P6/5/Sd1s Classic Rangies and a few P38s but never a diesel P38 yes i have put kenlowes on my previous classic cars and modified the exhaust systems for free flowing. I have also fitted efi and a Zf autobox to a P6 all with the help and advice of my late friend but never wrecked or changed anything outwardly ie changing the car from factory looks just mods to improve reliability my present P6 3500 is completely original except for the rear silencer i removed as it rotted off so straight piped it and it will also get a kenlowe but thats it if i came across on here as a wrecker i certainly didn't mean to
Datatek
Well-Known Member
The aircon needs to be on ALL the time to protect the dodgy electronics from damp.Dantak,
You misunderstood my meaning i think ie if the eas system has been left in place except the airbags i would probably try to re fit new air bags but if its all been ripped out it would be a major job refitting everything i definitely don't want to ruin the car if as you say the a/c by removing the a/c will decrease reliability it will stay but i know it will never be used.I am not the wrecker of cars just the opposite in fact i have owned many P6/5/Sd1s Classic Rangies and a few P38s but never a diesel P38 yes i have put kenlowes on my previous classic cars and modified the exhaust systems for free flowing. I have also fitted efi and a Zf autobox to a P6 all with the help and advice of my late friend but never wrecked or changed anything outwardly ie changing the car from factory looks just mods to improve reliability my present P6 3500 is completely original except for the rear silencer i removed as it rotted off so straight piped it and it will also get a kenlowe but thats it if i came across on here as a wrecker i certainly didn't mean to
