I am pretty sure they still haven't explained how a "no start" issue became a "new gearbox issue"
But I may have missed summat.
But I may have missed summat.
I am pretty sure they still haven't explained how a "no start" issue became a "new gearbox issue"
But I may have missed summat.
IMHO you haven't - cos if you have, I have too ...
AllanWorms
Well-Known Member
Get your story stuck on the car in vinyl lettering and push it to a car park outside the dealership.
norseman
Well-Known Member
I am pretty sure they still haven't explained how a "no start" issue became a "new gearbox issue"
But I may have missed summat.
probably standard modern sh*t box tronic if the battery is kaput - but, as they don't test such things .....
Hippo
Lord Hippo
You need to think about this with some logic.
Car failed to start. It has a fault in the gearbox. It is not unusual for a car to make 'checks' on itself before starting, and to stop itself from starting if there is a serious problem. The engine computer and gearbox computer are both involved in this task. Those checks continue during cranking anorl.
When it says the pressure sensor circuit has failed... it's not refering to no pressure reading because the engines not running. It's saying the measured loop resistance (wiring and/or sensor) is permanently open or short circuit, or short to earth or short to +power. That's what its telling you.
The garage have got the car into the state of being able to start it, but the gearbox fault is still present. On me phone at the moment so can't easily look it up, but has anyone else looked to see where said pressure sensor is on a disco sport auto gearbox? I suspect not. It would be a good idea to find out.
If the sensor is easily reachable by removing the end side plate then they may attempt a repair. If its deep inside the auto which requires access front the engine/torque converter end, then its gearbox oft time. Removel of gearbox parts and normally a fair bit of stripping to get inside. Hence why I think they have put forward for a replacemant gearbox. It would still be very expensive if the sensor is difficult to get too, for the main dealer to strip it themselves. Hence fitting a replacement new one or a reconditionned unit which comes via their approved reconditionner, which is tested and working. Your box may require a service kit to rebuild it as part of their working practices etc. Time to access condition and fit that. They may find other problems inside
On the subject of repair work gurantee... you go to the garage with a broke'd car. They suggest a fix and the price. That is either their solution or may be stated as their first suggested fix, if it could be one of many components causing the problem. Its up to the buyer of said repair to accept their advice or not. If in the case it doesn't fix it then you will struggle to fight them for a refund as you have accepted the above as part of the contract of repair. Purchase based on a suggestion only. Its treated as a suggested repair as oppsed to final fix solution. This is all standard stuff at most main dealerships. Its in the fine print on the rear of the service quotes/invoices. Peeps wont like this but its how it is.
On the subject of the price going up... have they advised if this is because more work is required or do they now beleive it will take them longer to fix?
Snooping on you... could easily be someone on ere telling the dealer about the fred or an employee having a general browse if the forum and spotting it.
Car failed to start. It has a fault in the gearbox. It is not unusual for a car to make 'checks' on itself before starting, and to stop itself from starting if there is a serious problem. The engine computer and gearbox computer are both involved in this task. Those checks continue during cranking anorl.
When it says the pressure sensor circuit has failed... it's not refering to no pressure reading because the engines not running. It's saying the measured loop resistance (wiring and/or sensor) is permanently open or short circuit, or short to earth or short to +power. That's what its telling you.
The garage have got the car into the state of being able to start it, but the gearbox fault is still present. On me phone at the moment so can't easily look it up, but has anyone else looked to see where said pressure sensor is on a disco sport auto gearbox? I suspect not. It would be a good idea to find out.
If the sensor is easily reachable by removing the end side plate then they may attempt a repair. If its deep inside the auto which requires access front the engine/torque converter end, then its gearbox oft time. Removel of gearbox parts and normally a fair bit of stripping to get inside. Hence why I think they have put forward for a replacemant gearbox. It would still be very expensive if the sensor is difficult to get too, for the main dealer to strip it themselves. Hence fitting a replacement new one or a reconditionned unit which comes via their approved reconditionner, which is tested and working. Your box may require a service kit to rebuild it as part of their working practices etc. Time to access condition and fit that. They may find other problems inside
On the subject of repair work gurantee... you go to the garage with a broke'd car. They suggest a fix and the price. That is either their solution or may be stated as their first suggested fix, if it could be one of many components causing the problem. Its up to the buyer of said repair to accept their advice or not. If in the case it doesn't fix it then you will struggle to fight them for a refund as you have accepted the above as part of the contract of repair. Purchase based on a suggestion only. Its treated as a suggested repair as oppsed to final fix solution. This is all standard stuff at most main dealerships. Its in the fine print on the rear of the service quotes/invoices. Peeps wont like this but its how it is.
On the subject of the price going up... have they advised if this is because more work is required or do they now beleive it will take them longer to fix?
Snooping on you... could easily be someone on ere telling the dealer about the fred or an employee having a general browse if the forum and spotting it.
payydg
Well-Known Member
@Scotmum
I have to say I agree with this and @Hippo. A lot of posts claiming this is a simple fix and a dealer scam or a JLR secret known issue. It's very possible and looking very likely that their assessment is accurate and posts to the contrary are just misleading your expectations. This is a **** position to be in and I hope it gets resolved for you. My gut feeling is a 40% contribution is the best you'll get but that doesn't mean you shouldn't fight for more. Do keep us posted on the outcome. Many people like yourself post for advice and then disappear, lots of people have taken the time to offer advice and would appreciate being told the final outcome. Also completes the post for future reference.
As much as I agree the 40% is probably the best deal. When the original quote for a transmission change was £4.5k, I think that may have been a deal that could have been considered seriously.
Now the quote with "goodwill" has changed to £7k (something) for a "recon" box with no warranty (think that was said), what has changed in-between, so more talking would be the order of the day.
And as you say hope OP comes back and tells the final outcome.
J
myfirstl322
Well-Known Member
There's a wee auxiliary battery who's sole purpose is to keep the tronicals upbeat and onside...common failure by all accounts.probably standard modern sh*t box tronic if the battery is kaput - but, as they don't test such things .....
Hippo
Lord Hippo
Looking up the location of the pressure sensor... it's on the valve block so acessable via the front solinoid cover. Bit of a faff to get too and remove the block if needed. Repair manual talks of it causing trouble for the rest of the gearbox. It monitors the pressure to create smooth gear shift timing. That's probably why LR suggest to change the auto when P0936-64 pops up. There's a chance it could be a wiring failure but repair depends on what damage it's done to the rest of the box.
