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skippy22

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here goes i have done the following
1. glow plugs
2. glow plug relay
3. engine heat temperature sensor
4. leak off pipes
5. one way stop valve
right ive done all above but still take a fair bit of turning over to start (warm or cold), the glow plug light only stays on for about 5 seconds everytime i was told thats not long enough thats why i done heat temp sensor, has anyone else got a clue please say you have this cars doing my nut in now :mad:
 
skippy22 said:
here goes i have done the following
1. glow plugs
2. glow plug relay
3. engine heat temperature sensor
4. leak off pipes
5. one way stop valve
right ive done all above but still take a fair bit of turning over to start (warm or cold), the glow plug light only stays on for about 5 seconds everytime i was told thats not long enough thats why i done heat temp sensor, has anyone else got a clue please say you have this cars doing my nut in now :mad:
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You could try wiring up a relay fed direct from the battery and manual control switch to operate the glowplugs, leave them on for 30 seconds and try to start it, but seeing as you say it's just as bad hot, I reckon the fault lies elswhere.
Maybe the fuel cut of solenoid in the injector pump?:eek:
 
Datatek said:
You could try wiring up a relay fed direct from the battery and manual control switch to operate the glowplugs, leave them on for 30 seconds and try to start it, but seeing as you say it's just as bad hot, I reckon the fault lies elswhere.
Maybe the fuel cut of solenoid in the injector pump?:eek:
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oh yeah i have done the fuel cut off solinoid aswell, it has the hot start problem but ill bet that sorted when i got glow plug problem sorted
 
Have you checked you're getting fuel when you're cranking? Does the fuel pump work? Is the air filter clogged? Are the air inlet pipes on, sealed and not split or perished? Is there a good earth between the engine casing and chassis and chassis to battery? You say you have a new battery on, but did you check the other end of the battery connection for soundness and cleanliness? Have you changed the fuel filter? Have you got fuel in the tank? Have you bled/purged the fuel system?

You say it takes a fair bit of tuening over ... does this mean the engine turns over slowly, or takes many revolutions to fire, or both? If it's turning slowly remove glow plugs and turn it again to see if the cranking speed increases. Could be a poor starter motor.
It could be that it just needs a damn good service and a bit of TLC on the injector pump side .. try asking a specialist diesel place rather than a Landrover place ;)
 
skippy22 said:
ever since i had it its been like it, its a very good battery i only brought it off ebay few weeks ago its a 670cca
LUCAS 12V 643/644 HEAVY DUTY LORRY/TRUCK BATTERY on eBay (end time 17-Aug-09 16:00:10 BST)
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The Range Rover Manual states a battery with a 107 amp/hour rating is required for the diesel.

When I first purchased my diesel it was slow to start hot or cold, then I changed the battery to a 1000cca spec, the difference is amazing, it now starts almost immmedatly hot or cold compared to when I purchased it.

Please note: The link above was not the supplier of the battery I fitted to my vehicle, but I may have a spare new 1000 cca battery available, if anyone require a decent battery.........
 
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zzr1200 said:
The Range Rover Manual state a battery with a 107 amp/hour rating is required for the diesel.

When I first purchased my diesel it was slow to start hot or cold, then I changed the battery to a 1000cca spec, the difference is amazing, it now starts almost immmedatly hot or cold compared to when I purchased it.
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Thats a very good point, if the cranking speed is too slow starting will be difficult. Just had the same problem on my tractor, turned out to be the bearings shot in the starter motor:eek: Fitted new starter motor and it cranked twice as fast and now starts instantly:D
 
zzr1200 said:
The Range Rover Manual states a battery with a 107 amp/hour rating is required for the diesel.

When I first purchased my diesel it was slow to start hot or cold, then I changed the battery to a 1000cca spec, the difference is amazing, it now starts almost immmedatly hot or cold compared to when I purchased it.

Please note: The link above was not the supplier of the battery I fitted to my vehicle, but I may have a spare new 1000 cca battery available, if anyone require a decent battery.........
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how much for your battery, i was given the link i listed by few people on this forum who said its good for dse's
 
Paul D said:
Have you checked you're getting fuel when you're cranking? Does the fuel pump work? Is the air filter clogged? Are the air inlet pipes on, sealed and not split or perished? Is there a good earth between the engine casing and chassis and chassis to battery? You say you have a new battery on, but did you check the other end of the battery connection for soundness and cleanliness? Have you changed the fuel filter? Have you got fuel in the tank? Have you bled/purged the fuel system?

You say it takes a fair bit of tuening over ... does this mean the engine turns over slowly, or takes many revolutions to fire, or both? If it's turning slowly remove glow plugs and turn it again to see if the cranking speed increases. Could be a poor starter motor.
It could be that it just needs a damn good service and a bit of TLC on the injector pump side .. try asking a specialist diesel place rather than a Landrover place ;)
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seems to be turning over fine just to many turns
 
Sorry for so many quotes was easier replying that way,
but still seems like glow plugs or something to me, everyone says in mornings they should be on for 20-30 secs but mine are 5 seconds EVERY time
 
skippy22 said:
seems to be turning over fine just to many turns
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Depending on here you live in Beds could you make the meeting on the 24th at Galleywood/Chelmsford area then we could see how slow yours is at starting???

PS: Off out now with the kids and all, back here later, see ya
 
im going away next fri was hoping to try get it sorted by then, as i own a p38 ill def get breakdown cover by then :)
 
SORRY TO HERE @ YOUR BAD STARTING MY 96 DSE 5 SECS ON THE HEPLUGS BIT CRANK AND AWAY SHE GOES . BOUGHT HER END OF MAY COS FAMILY WERE CHUNTERING @ ALL THE OLD JUNK I USUALLY DRIVE HOPE THIS HELPS ARE U SURE all THE PLUGS R WORKING? BEST OF LUCK MATE
 
big dave2 said:
SORRY TO HERE @ YOUR BAD STARTING MY 96 DSE 5 SECS ON THE HEPLUGS BIT CRANK AND AWAY SHE GOES . BOUGHT HER END OF MAY COS FAMILY WERE CHUNTERING @ ALL THE OLD JUNK I USUALLY DRIVE HOPE THIS HELPS ARE U SURE all THE PLUGS R WORKING? BEST OF LUCK MATE
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i checked last week all were between 11 and 11.50,
i have a 7.5t recovery truck ill check see if that has a better battery if so ill swap it over and try that
 
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