Clunkbucket
Active Member
You may very possibly be right as an Estate is a business and having an operators licence just to haul bails of hay would be a pain!
Clunkbucket
Active Member
Have you ever been pulled and had to argue your case?
Shippers
Well-Known Member
Probably not where he lives...more than likely gives the local plod a lift home from pub...
Fatrover
Well-Known Member
.....hehehe nearly right, we’ve only got 2 plod here and they’re just local bobbies,they don’t bother farmers and forestry workers here, it’s the main economy.....nearest traffic plod is Glasgow a good 80 miles away, they don’t venture out to teuchter land...which is fine by me!
Bobsticle
De Villes Advocaat
I want to go pick up a car to play with but it’s a none runner. I happen to have a suitable trailer that it will fit on so I buy the car and pop down the road to pick it up.
At what point can the plod prove I am a business. You have said yourself your doing it as a hobby.
As far as I can see, as long as your insured to tow a trailer all is good. It’s a bit like not declaring driving to and from work then admitting you were when you have a bump. If you just say your on your way for a pint of milk your OK.
Naturally you will have an issue if car and trailer have full wirly birds blazing and Rob Miles Restorations painted all over it.
At what point can the plod prove I am a business. You have said yourself your doing it as a hobby.
As far as I can see, as long as your insured to tow a trailer all is good. It’s a bit like not declaring driving to and from work then admitting you were when you have a bump. If you just say your on your way for a pint of milk your OK.
Naturally you will have an issue if car and trailer have full wirly birds blazing and Rob Miles Restorations painted all over it.
You've given me an idea.....
Years ago (I mean many years ago) a freind was using his dad's car to do some deliveries and rolled it, it was a write off. We all knew he was driving like an idoit because he always drove like a idiot. Anyway insurers refused to pay as they claimed the car was being used for business. Problem was the road was strewn with crates of tomatoes and his dad ran a green-grocers. It was one of the wedge shaped Austins and the tail gate came off as it was most likely overloaded as well. Lesson - drive sensibly. There is a postscipt to this story, the reason he had to do the delvery was to get the use of the car because he had taken a mutual freind who had broken his arm in a M/C accident to the pub (I'll bet they both had a few drinks..). He cracked his neck in the roll over and ended up back in the same hospital a day after the bike accident but this time as in-patient. He spent a month in a neck brace with turnbuckles, if he talked too much we could quiten him down by tightening them up a bit. I don't think that's allowed anymore.
Years ago (I mean many years ago) a freind was using his dad's car to do some deliveries and rolled it, it was a write off. We all knew he was driving like an idoit because he always drove like a idiot. Anyway insurers refused to pay as they claimed the car was being used for business. Problem was the road was strewn with crates of tomatoes and his dad ran a green-grocers. It was one of the wedge shaped Austins and the tail gate came off as it was most likely overloaded as well. Lesson - drive sensibly. There is a postscipt to this story, the reason he had to do the delvery was to get the use of the car because he had taken a mutual freind who had broken his arm in a M/C accident to the pub (I'll bet they both had a few drinks..). He cracked his neck in the roll over and ended up back in the same hospital a day after the bike accident but this time as in-patient. He spent a month in a neck brace with turnbuckles, if he talked too much we could quiten him down by tightening them up a bit. I don't think that's allowed anymore.
BuzzLand
Active Member
Aren't you exempt from that ****e if you got your license before 2007? As long as you aren't exceeding 7,500 kilos the tacho is not applicable isn't it? Also I think there's a bunch of exemptions if you aren't traveling far from your place of business.
Bobsticle
De Villes Advocaat
If the tomatoes was on the road they can’t prove he had anything to do with them.
I’m not surprised officer. I had to swerve out of the way of those crates falling off that truck. Hic.*
Clunkbucket
Active Member
My issue is that I live close to the M6 where there is a VOSA checkpoint. The traffic police lie in wait for vehicles further down the motorway and then pull them over and instruct them to continue and stop at the VOSA checkpoint. It's OK the first time, I can get away with the "I just bought it for my wife" but there is a very real risk that I will become known to them and after the third pull I will be getting into hot water, so I want to get my story straight before I get the inevitable pull.
@BuzzLand as soon as your vehicle goes over a Gross Vehicle weight of 3500Kgs and you are using it for business you need a tacho. That means most works transits and similar are illegal as soon as a trailer is hooked on the back.
Fortunately I now have the docs to prove I am exempt.
