50th edition, only going to cost you £22K.............................LOL.
There was one on here last week..............:D:D
Cheers

I have never paid more than 3k for any road motor vehicle, and no intention of starting now! :)
 
Yes yes, I was waiting for someone to roll out the cylinder head thing.... that's always the next item people cling to when claiming 200Tdi parts are rare :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

Tell me, exactly how often do you actually replace cylinder heads on engines such as these? Is it a service item? Or maybe something that might need replacing once in 250,000 miles of normal use? And even when this does happen unexpectedly, chances are you'll be able to recondition the original head anyhow. So the lack of brand new stock really makes no odds what so ever.


Well look at this, completely surprising.. it's in stock and wow, it's a new recondition cylinder head that could be with you tomorrow. Yep, super super rare parts that are totally impossible to find :rolleyes::rolleyes::p
https://www.turnerengineering.co.uk/rtc-6896-cylinder-head-complete-cou-exchange-c2x20634382


Ive got a spare head in my garage been sat there for 7 yrs:D
I think people scrap the heads needlessly due to the minor cracking the occurs between the valves, one of mine has been like this ever since Ive owned it
 
Yes yes, I was waiting for someone to roll out the cylinder head thing.... that's always the next item people cling to when claiming 200Tdi parts are rare :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

Tell me, exactly how often do you actually replace cylinder heads on engines such as these? Is it a service item? Or maybe something that might need replacing once in 250,000 miles of normal use? And even when this does happen unexpectedly, chances are you'll be able to recondition the original head anyhow. So the lack of brand new stock really makes no odds what so ever.


Well look at this, completely surprising.. it's in stock and wow, it's a new recondition cylinder head that could be with you tomorrow. Yep, super super rare parts that are totally impossible to find :rolleyes::rolleyes::p
https://www.turnerengineering.co.uk/rtc-6896-cylinder-head-complete-cou-exchange-c2x20634382
So 300bhp/ton firstly your agreeing that some parts are now not available new for the 200tdi .
Secondly nobody has said 200tdi parts new or used are super super rare and totally impossible to find. Thirdly reconditioned is not new.
 
The 19J, if reasonably well maintained, will easily run half a million miles without missing a beat, which is why they were used by a certain London Taxicab Company, who may even be prepared to let you have some spares, or even full engines!!
So please don't knock one of the best 'clogger' engines ever made!!
If you want speed, get a sports car, if you want raw power, get yourself a Fordson Dexter, but if you want reliability use a 19J .. end of!!

Ah they never fitted the TD (19J) to the taxi's. They first fitted the 10J which was the 2.25 diesel, it got a particularly bad reputation in the taxi's with the timing chain issues.

Then the 12J came along which was the 2.5NA - good strong engine, MOD used them for ages (11J), they were bullet proof. The 14J and 15J designation was fitted to the FX4 and the Freight Rover - with a higher injection pump and tin timing cover instead of a waterproof unit (I have one of these engines it was in my 90).

Then they decided to turbo charge the NA and called it a 19J - this didn't give the same reliability of robustness of the NA, they did resolve this to an extent with a upgraded block and bearing arrangement but it never made it into a taxi this engine. MOD started to refuse to use them and instead kept many 11J's running waited for the TDI to come out. It was a good engine if well maintained but it was over stressed generally.

I think the most reliable engines LR made were the 12J, 200 and 300TDI - the TDI's will do intergalactic miles as will the 12J but I will admit the HG is more robust on the 12J as it's iron on iron, the injectors are less robust on the TDI's compared to the old Lucas units however, the Bosch pump is far superior to the Lucas CAV. I would rather carry a spare set of injectors and change them at the side of the road 2500miles from home than carry and change an injection pump. So really take your pick on which one, I personally think a TDI and carry the right spares and do the HG at about the 130,000 mark.
 
Ah they never fitted the TD (19J) to the taxi's. They first fitted the 10J which was the 2.25 diesel, it got a particularly bad reputation in the taxi's with the timing chain issues.

Then the 12J came along which was the 2.5NA - good strong engine, MOD used them for ages (11J), they were bullet proof. The 14J and 15J designation was fitted to the FX4 and the Freight Rover - with a higher injection pump and tin timing cover instead of a waterproof unit (I have one of these engines it was in my 90).

Then they decided to turbo charge the NA and called it a 19J - this didn't give the same reliability of robustness of the NA, they did resolve this to an extent with a upgraded block and bearing arrangement but it never made it into a taxi this engine. MOD started to refuse to use them and instead kept many 11J's running waited for the TDI to come out. It was a good engine if well maintained but it was over stressed generally.

I think the most reliable engines LR made were the 12J, 200 and 300TDI - the TDI's will do intergalactic miles as will the 12J but I will admit the HG is more robust on the 12J as it's iron on iron, the injectors are less robust on the TDI's compared to the old Lucas units however, the Bosch pump is far superior to the Lucas CAV. I would rather carry a spare set of injectors and change them at the side of the road 2500miles from home than carry and change an injection pump. So really take your pick on which one, I personally think a TDI and carry the right spares and do the HG at about the 130,000 mark.

Spot on. Except I dont agree about the Lucas pumps. I have had many over the years, no serious issues, provided the fuel is clean. The DPA pump on my Massey is 33 years old, 5000 hours plus, and the only thing I have ever changed is the throttle shaft rubber seal.
 
It's a Landrover. If you want fast, get a car.
I got my Land Rover to tow a horsebox, it was so slow with the 2.5 N/A that it would have been dangerous on a motorway, I think the minimum acceptable is an ability to make 56mph in most circumstances and keep up with HGVs.
I used it to tow the engine donor Discovery on a trailer and had it in 1st gear low box on a particularly steep country lane. On the same journey it was down to 30mph on a hill on the motorway, which would not have been fun if it had not been quiet.
I agree with your sentiment about going fast, but 68bhp in a 110 wouldn't really have been adequate in the 1950's, let alone in modern traffic.
 
I got my Land Rover to tow a horsebox, it was so slow with the 2.5 N/A that it would have been dangerous on a motorway, I think the minimum acceptable is an ability to make 56mph in most circumstances and keep up with HGVs.
I used it to tow the engine donor Discovery on a trailer and had it in 1st gear low box on a particularly steep country lane. On the same journey it was down to 30mph on a hill on the motorway, which would not have been fun if it had not been quiet.
I agree with your sentiment about going fast, but 68bhp in a 110 wouldn't really have been adequate in the 1950's, let alone in modern traffic.

My Ninety stays on farm work, and going to the shops, and occasional laning.
I bought a 2000 V8 Auto D2 for towing, it could easily do 70 with the cattle float(empty)! :D Sold it now, though, I rarely tow these days.
For road work, I like my 2 litre Mondeo, 6 speed autobox, interactive cruise control, cruise all day at 70, and I get 55mpg while I am doing it! :)
 
Ah they never fitted the TD (19J) to the taxi's. They first fitted the 10J which was the 2.25 diesel, it got a particularly bad reputation in the taxi's with the timing chain issues.

Then the 12J came along which was the 2.5NA - good strong engine, MOD used them for ages (11J), they were bullet proof. The 14J and 15J designation was fitted to the FX4 and the Freight Rover - with a higher injection pump and tin timing cover instead of a waterproof unit (I have one of these engines it was in my 90)...
My most sincere apologies! :p:p
It must be an 'age thing', being able to confuse a 10J or a 12J NA with a turbocharged 19J! I blame the medication!:eek::eek:
 
Bit less whisky and beer of an evening might prolong the life of yer turbocharger! ;):D
After a few pints of painkillerer, and a 'small' Aldi (very nice) whisky, I become slightly betterer lubricated than the innards of me oilcan, and mine is a proper Nominally Exasperated two point whichver injun, that has never missed a beat in over 160k miles that I've had her! <<< Hic!>>> :confused::confused::D:D
 
My most sincere apologies! :p:p
It must be an 'age thing', being able to confuse a 10J or a 12J NA with a turbocharged 19J! I blame the medication!:eek::eek:

The trouble is, it's so easy to know things, and then get it wrong anyway! It's just life, given Whisky can lead to us forgetting things like how to walk, I would say getting an engine muddled is perfectly reasonable and minor mistake!
 
The trouble is, it's so easy to know things, and then get it wrong anyway! It's just life, given Whisky can lead to us forgetting things like how to walk, I would say getting an engine muddled is perfectly reasonable and minor mistake!
Many thanks for your support and understanding o_Oo_O
 

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