Paulmitchell1984
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what are the tubes used for on the steering guards? loving the build though cant wait to see it completed and used 
Mr Noisy
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what are the tubes used for on the steering guards? loving the build though cant wait to see it completed and used
Hi-Lift Jack
GreenHornet
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Hi guys,
Well tonight I got stuck in and fitted the prop spacer. After running the Hornet for a week I decided to fit the spacer to the front prop as this one clearly showed the most need as I could see about 10mm of the splines when the suspension was at rest.
Once fitted I then diligently greased both front and rear props as well as all four UJ's. Immediately on the road I felt a difference. The running gear seemed to loose some of its rumbles and on the over run I didn't hear any noise from the props as I had done before.
Tomorrow I am tackling the relocation cones on the rear as they have caught the springs badly. Then it's a good old articulation test. With photos of course.
Well tonight I got stuck in and fitted the prop spacer. After running the Hornet for a week I decided to fit the spacer to the front prop as this one clearly showed the most need as I could see about 10mm of the splines when the suspension was at rest.
Once fitted I then diligently greased both front and rear props as well as all four UJ's. Immediately on the road I felt a difference. The running gear seemed to loose some of its rumbles and on the over run I didn't hear any noise from the props as I had done before.
Tomorrow I am tackling the relocation cones on the rear as they have caught the springs badly. Then it's a good old articulation test. With photos of course.
Paulmitchell1984
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cheers mr noisy,
cant wait to see the pics
cant wait to see the pics
GreenHornet
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So today as I mentioned previously, I had a look at the relocation cones on the rear end of the Hornet.
This has been the first week that I have run the vehicle and straight away I was getting a banging at the rear end. This turned out to be the hook of the cone catching the spring as it returned from compression. You can see the hook in this photo.
Anyway upon inspection this morning I found that the hook had indeed taken the coating off the spring and so I set about removing it. This was easily done by placing a small bottle jack between the axle and the bump stop and then jacking the axle and body apart. Be careful doing this as you will eventually hit the shock absorbers full height limit and can easily damage the shock if not aware.
Once the spring was lifted out I removed the cone and cut a 3mm slot on one side and then rewelded it. This pulled the hook inwards towards the centre of the spring and hence away from trouble.
Once both were done it was time to try and test it. Up near me there is forest land where I walk the dog. In the car park there are banks which GummyBear and MattBaxter have used to test their disco's suspension so I thought I would do the same. Here are the results.
As you can see there is still about another 6 to 9 inches left before the wheel hits the arch, which is great.
Unfortunately the bank was not high enough to even get close to dislocating the spring, however the mod to the relocation cone has worked a treat and it now sits perfectly where I want it.
Now that is done I can try and find somewhere tomorrow to get some proper photos of the suspension and the Hornet to post.
Tomorrow will also be a day working on the bumper and steering guard too.
This has been the first week that I have run the vehicle and straight away I was getting a banging at the rear end. This turned out to be the hook of the cone catching the spring as it returned from compression. You can see the hook in this photo.
Anyway upon inspection this morning I found that the hook had indeed taken the coating off the spring and so I set about removing it. This was easily done by placing a small bottle jack between the axle and the bump stop and then jacking the axle and body apart. Be careful doing this as you will eventually hit the shock absorbers full height limit and can easily damage the shock if not aware.
Once the spring was lifted out I removed the cone and cut a 3mm slot on one side and then rewelded it. This pulled the hook inwards towards the centre of the spring and hence away from trouble.
Once both were done it was time to try and test it. Up near me there is forest land where I walk the dog. In the car park there are banks which GummyBear and MattBaxter have used to test their disco's suspension so I thought I would do the same. Here are the results.
As you can see there is still about another 6 to 9 inches left before the wheel hits the arch, which is great.
Unfortunately the bank was not high enough to even get close to dislocating the spring, however the mod to the relocation cone has worked a treat and it now sits perfectly where I want it.
Now that is done I can try and find somewhere tomorrow to get some proper photos of the suspension and the Hornet to post.
Tomorrow will also be a day working on the bumper and steering guard too.
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GreenHornet
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be nice to see this in action at some point, sure you will be out laning with sam sometime in the coming months.
I would love to come to Derbyshire too. I used to live in Newark on Trent and always took a ride to Buxton etc with bike. It's been an age since I visited the cat n fiddle, although I guess it's all coppers and biker knobs on rice rockets wearing tailor made body bags.
Ummm I feel a camping trip being organised.............
Mr Noisy
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Eh up
Looking good there Ian! **** me there's some room in them arches, as you say the spring hasnt even dropped out yet!
You know the score mate, whenever the motah's ready and you're all tooled up we'll start talking about a laning trip.
Hey Jim did you get anywhere with that ratio selector link? Was it cast?
Looking good there Ian! **** me there's some room in them arches, as you say the spring hasnt even dropped out yet!
You know the score mate, whenever the motah's ready and you're all tooled up we'll start talking about a laning trip.
Hey Jim did you get anywhere with that ratio selector link? Was it cast?
Mr Noisy
Coming in your ears.
Are you gonna slop some paint on those quarter panels or what Ian? Just that I'd recommend chequerplate tbh pal, not an absolute must, but theres a fair bit of abuse going on down there especially if you're not opting for tree bars (which are worth their weight in gold also)
Shame to cover up such nice paintwork I know...
Shame to cover up such nice paintwork I know...
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GreenHornet
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Hi Sam,
The white bits were just to repair the hole for the MOT. I do intend to get satin black chequer plate ordered next week, January is always a tight month. However I may just have plain Ali sheet and have a sticker down the side which I have beep laying with. Either way I can remember my last off roader having some serums gouges down one side.
All the above is the main reason why I'm not taking it off roading straight away before I get these few issues sorted. However everyone wants to see some pics so I will try and not disappoint.
As for the arches etc, I am very surprised. I knew that I would have some extensive articulation but this has impressed me so far. The bank I drove up is quite high yet the fronts haven't really moved and the rear still has a long way to go. I will go somewhere else tomorrow where they have concrete blocks and higher banks and have some serious fun taking photos. I could do with building an articulation ramp lol.
I think the extra height in the body helped a lot too
The white bits were just to repair the hole for the MOT. I do intend to get satin black chequer plate ordered next week, January is always a tight month. However I may just have plain Ali sheet and have a sticker down the side which I have beep laying with. Either way I can remember my last off roader having some serums gouges down one side.
All the above is the main reason why I'm not taking it off roading straight away before I get these few issues sorted. However everyone wants to see some pics so I will try and not disappoint.
As for the arches etc, I am very surprised. I knew that I would have some extensive articulation but this has impressed me so far. The bank I drove up is quite high yet the fronts haven't really moved and the rear still has a long way to go. I will go somewhere else tomorrow where they have concrete blocks and higher banks and have some serious fun taking photos. I could do with building an articulation ramp lol.
I think the extra height in the body helped a lot too
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PETER PETRAKIEV
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what are the tubes used for on the steering guards? loving the build though cant wait to see it completed and used
Hi-Lift Jack
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Mr Noisy
Coming in your ears.
Eh up
Looking good there Ian! **** me there's some room in them arches, as you say the spring hasnt even dropped out yet!
You know the score mate, whenever the motah's ready and you're all tooled up we'll start talking about a laning trip.
Hey Jim did you get anywhere with that ratio selector link? Was it cast?
ye looking at trying to make another selector , thats stronger and not so much play in them , i need mine off the road mate , my crank seal has started ****ing oil out , and i have a transfer box to fit , the rest of the poly bush kit etc etc . bloody landys theres always sumit lol.
Mr Noisy
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ye looking at trying to make another selector , thats stronger and not so much play in them , i need mine off the road mate , my crank seal has started ****ing oil out , and i have a transfer box to fit , the rest of the poly bush kit etc etc . bloody landys theres always sumit lol.
I did my crank seal and now it leaks worse than it did before. Suppose it is a v8 of death though...
Probably just bad luck mate if it doesn't seem to be stiffer than normal, unless it was operator error...????
I did my crank seal and now it leaks worse than it did before. Suppose it is a v8 of death though...
Probably just bad luck mate if it doesn't seem to be stiffer than normal, unless it was operator error...????
its was weird, cuz it went into low range dead easy, but then wouldnt go back in
any how it dont matter as yet , cuz the transfer box is coming out , long overdue..... prob was driver area that snapped it with people sat behind me going wtf why aint we moving
PETER PETRAKIEV
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GreenHornet
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Peter,
This problem is caused by the height of the lift. Due to me adding so much height,mthe axle has tilted forward and as a result, the shock absorbers are close to the inside of the suspension turret. This will get rectified once new castor correction arms are fitted next month.
This problem is caused by the height of the lift. Due to me adding so much height,mthe axle has tilted forward and as a result, the shock absorbers are close to the inside of the suspension turret. This will get rectified once new castor correction arms are fitted next month.
GreenHornet
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TODAY I MOSTLY TRIED TO TIP OVER
OK, so after yesterday I decided to find a taller bank to test the articulation and I managed to do just that. Below are some pictures that I took to help others with suspension choices and setup as well as let you all know how my best is developing.
So here is the bank. It was about four and a half feet high and just out of shot there was a selection of concrete sleepers etc that I played on later.
So first off, up she goes. You can see frothy rear how much lean you can get and how easy a vehicle can negotiate high obstacles.
Next we have the view from the nearside. You can see that the front wheel is on top of the bank and as you will see, the bank still isn't high enough.
The offside wheel is nicely tucked into the arch. Clearance to the top of the arch is still a good 4 to 5 inches, however we have an issue which I will point out later. Whilst it looks like the ty is touching the arches, it isn't. There is about an inch and a half clearance. If this proves a little tight when offloading in anger, I can trim and relocate the extended arch without any issues.
So here you can see the spring is finally starting to dislocate. However we still have a good five inches before the spring catches the hook on the relocation cone, so plenty of movement left. This will be helped when I change the standard trailing arms this weekend coming.
You can also see the area on the cone that I modified by cutting a slither out and welding it back up.
OK, on the offside you can see that the spring is far from being bound up which is great. You can also see clearly the bump stop. This is the standard height stop which is too small. I need to increase this by at least another inch if not two in order to protect the shock when the suspension is on full compression. This issue is potentially an expensive one as if I don't get the proper stops then I will damage the shock and the tyre as well as anything else that gives.
From the front you can see that the front suspension has hardly moved at all. This is going to be a challenge to dislocate the front springs. However this may change when I get the new castor arms on.
Next I reversed onto the bank to check the front out.
Like I said, hardly any movement.
This was a fun shot, only because once I jumped out, I really struggled to get back in. The boot floor was by my chest and I almost had to get in frothy boot lol
Finally I saw a nice range rover and thought what would the hornet look like next to it. I now know for sure that I would rather have mine than anything else. What a beast.
I hope you liked the photos.
OK, so after yesterday I decided to find a taller bank to test the articulation and I managed to do just that. Below are some pictures that I took to help others with suspension choices and setup as well as let you all know how my best is developing.
So here is the bank. It was about four and a half feet high and just out of shot there was a selection of concrete sleepers etc that I played on later.
So first off, up she goes. You can see frothy rear how much lean you can get and how easy a vehicle can negotiate high obstacles.
Next we have the view from the nearside. You can see that the front wheel is on top of the bank and as you will see, the bank still isn't high enough.
The offside wheel is nicely tucked into the arch. Clearance to the top of the arch is still a good 4 to 5 inches, however we have an issue which I will point out later. Whilst it looks like the ty is touching the arches, it isn't. There is about an inch and a half clearance. If this proves a little tight when offloading in anger, I can trim and relocate the extended arch without any issues.
So here you can see the spring is finally starting to dislocate. However we still have a good five inches before the spring catches the hook on the relocation cone, so plenty of movement left. This will be helped when I change the standard trailing arms this weekend coming.
You can also see the area on the cone that I modified by cutting a slither out and welding it back up.
OK, on the offside you can see that the spring is far from being bound up which is great. You can also see clearly the bump stop. This is the standard height stop which is too small. I need to increase this by at least another inch if not two in order to protect the shock when the suspension is on full compression. This issue is potentially an expensive one as if I don't get the proper stops then I will damage the shock and the tyre as well as anything else that gives.
From the front you can see that the front suspension has hardly moved at all. This is going to be a challenge to dislocate the front springs. However this may change when I get the new castor arms on.
Next I reversed onto the bank to check the front out.
Like I said, hardly any movement.
This was a fun shot, only because once I jumped out, I really struggled to get back in. The boot floor was by my chest and I almost had to get in frothy boot lol
Finally I saw a nice range rover and thought what would the hornet look like next to it. I now know for sure that I would rather have mine than anything else. What a beast.
I hope you liked the photos.
GreenHornet
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Yeah my anniversary post of #500. God do I talk a lot or what.
So this afternoon after my little play, I started work on the rear bumper. I will post photos when I have something of substance so please be patient, then again if you are not the patient type, tough lol.
I am planning on using 60x100x3.2mm RHS steelwork overlaid on a 50x50x2mm bracket work. I really want to have a rock solid bumper that won't move. I also intend of having side protectors that are braced to the chassis. Basically if someone hits the rear end, I want to be left with nothing more than a scratch and half of their car attached lol.
So this afternoon after my little play, I started work on the rear bumper. I will post photos when I have something of substance so please be patient, then again if you are not the patient type, tough lol.
I am planning on using 60x100x3.2mm RHS steelwork overlaid on a 50x50x2mm bracket work. I really want to have a rock solid bumper that won't move. I also intend of having side protectors that are braced to the chassis. Basically if someone hits the rear end, I want to be left with nothing more than a scratch and half of their car attached lol.
