london stu · May 11, 2012

Hi guys

Got my eye on a D2 but haven't seen it yet as it's miles away.

The dealer says there's no diff lock on it because it has traction control instead. I know that Land Rover changed this during the production run of the D2, but I thought they put diff lock back in on the later models...?

Could somebody please confirm whether an 04 reg D2 should have a manual diff lock control?

Thanks as always

Stu

matty_daak · May 11, 2012

I wouldn't like to say for sure, as you said some did some didn't... some did but just had the linkage removed... Helpful ain't I

london stu · May 11, 2012

Yeah, cheers for clearing that up

HenryD · May 11, 2012

The first D2's had it but no control for it,then it was removed completely for a couple of years then came back again for the last of them,I would have thought an 04 would have it fitted

50 pence · May 11, 2012

The diff lock transfer box WITH lever was only fitted to certain models towrds the end of the production of the D2. I think I,m also right in saying that, it was available as an option on vehicles produced in the last couple of years of D2 manufacture.

I,m sure it was standard on all facelift ES Premiums.

Generally, MOST facelift vehicles WONT have the diff lock transfer box fitted, but some 2002 pre-facelift cars didnt have it either.

If its an important consideration foe your potential purchase, then ask the dealer to check the transfer box for the diff lock spiggot on top of the front out put housing of the transfer box.

thebiglad · May 12, 2012

Facelift cars as I understand it, never had Centre Dfill Lock (CDL) as std, in later production some had it but it was on the options list.

To confirm on the car you are interested in, ask the dealer to look at the smaller gear lever and see what is inscribed on it - Hi-Lo or Hi-Lo and Diff lock.

The early DII's ('98 to 2001) had the CDL innards in the transfer box but not the connecting lever. From 2002 to about 2004 they did not have the innards, but on the latest cars it was an option.

london stu · May 12, 2012

Thanks as always guys. I'll check as you suggest.

I realise this question might open a whole can of worms, but is there any major difference between the capabilities of CDL and traction control? I guess people will prefer one over the other for various reasons - but do they perform the same?

thebiglad · May 12, 2012

london stu said:
Thanks as always guys. I'll check as you suggest.

I realise this question might open a whole can of worms, but is there any major difference between the capabilities of CDL and traction control? I guess people will prefer one over the other for various reasons - but do they perform the same?

On a DII, traction control is always there, so it's not a matter of either or, it's more a matter of TC only or TC + CDL.

From my own experience I can tell you that tyre choice makes a bigger difference than whether you have CDL or not.

TC and good tyres will get you a long long way with ordinary laning. Also you need to learn how to get the best from TC. However, TC + CDL will, no doubt, get you further.

If you buy a 2004 DII and it doesn't have CDL you can always get it retro-fitted, so my advice would be, find the best cleanest, highest specced DII you can within your price range, ensure it has good tyre on it such as BFG AT's and then use it for a while with just TC. It if's not enough then goto CDL; locking rear diff and finally locking front diff - then you really will be able to go anywhere.

Can't stress too much though, all these systems depend on good tyres.

Good luck

Dave

Paul D · May 12, 2012

thebiglad said:
On a DII, traction control is always there, so it's not a matter of either or, it's more a matter of TC only or TC + CDL.

From my own experience I can tell you that tyre choice makes a bigger difference than whether you have CDL or not.

TC and good tyres will get you a long long way with ordinary laning. Also you need to learn how to get the best from TC. However, TC + CDL will, no doubt, get you further.

If you buy a 2004 DII and it doesn't have CDL you can always get it retro-fitted, so my advice would be, find the best cleanest, highest specced DII you can within your price range, ensure it has good tyre on it such as BFG AT's and then use it for a while with just TC. It if's not enough then goto CDL; locking rear diff and finally locking front diff - then you really will be able to go anywhere.

Can't stress too much though, all these systems depend on good tyres.

Good luck

Dave

Agree with all that, but there are a couple of other things that can really help keep traction ..

Good technique, throttle, clutch and braking, knowing what to do, when to do it, and what not to do and when!

An ability to 'read' a track and pick a line, e.g. you might not 'need' to go over the biggest rock, going round might be way easier on both your ability and more sympathetic to the vehicle ..

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