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monkeyboy1966

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Hi all,

I would like to purchase a diagnostic tool to use on my RR L322 V8 (gas conversion). I don't have loads of money to throw at it, but want value for money! Recommended a 'Gap iid tool' by another member ( thank you) any other suggestions. I've looked on past threads but the newest one was 2017 and I'm sure things might have changed since! Thanks in advance.
 
Can’t fault the Gap, but not cheap.
I believe icarsoft i930 gets some good reviews but no experience. Have a search cos I remember @Saint.V8 did a video using it. It is a lot friendlier to your pocket too.

But with the price comes limitations of what you can do, I really believe the Gap is excellent value when you get into it and what it can do.
Whatever you get it will save you money in the long run.

J
 
Get a second hand Gap. Or a second hand Nanocom, forget the rest. Yes I do have another one ( Hawkeye Pro and faultmate) but I haven't touched anything else since I have the iidtool.
It comes a lot cheaper than throwing money at overpriced 'mechanics'
 
Don’t think Nanocom covered that year which was why I didn’t mention.
Worth checking though.

J
 
I have a Gap and a Hawkeye, I'd go for the Gap, streets ahead and easy to use, the service you get from the guy in Canada, brilliant.
 
Make sure your year is covered as they changed fairly early on. For cheap there is always Storey Wilson with his Allcomms and 4DCAN.
 
Gap or... I'll throw the Foxwell NT-520 or NT-530 in for debate as a suitable and not too pricey diagnostic tester (£150ish?) for all Land Rover and Jaguar models.
IMHO I'd pass on the iCarsoft. I had the CR Plus model and it was rubbish for a Land Rover. I sold it and bought a Foxwell.
 
The iCarsoft is good for what it does, but you can't change settings or calibrate functions etc.

RSW (the legend that is Storey Wilson) 4D tool or the All Comms is very capable - but requires a laptop.

GapDiagnostics IIDTool is very good, Nanocom doesn't do the 2002-2005 model L322.

Lynx - mixed reports as is the Hawkeye.

No experience of Foxwell gear so can't comment.
 
Buy cheap buy twice. . I will check Allmakes had a special for Gaps Iidtool a few weeks ago.
Yes you can do a lot with a Hawkeye Pro for instance on a l322. But you can't calibrate the suspension and do an in depth test of everything. Here you see your suspension on a bumpy road.
You won't regret it. When my first iidtool ( the CAD 3000 version) was run over by the recovery truck, I took a loan from a friend to replace it. They did a very special price for me so that I could keep working.
And the support is the best ever. Neither in Cyprus nor in China you will get anything like it.
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As someone who has been restoring a l322 2003 td6, I plumbed for the ALL Comms as the car was bought with an air suspension fault. I truly wish I hadn't. The tool was £230 delivered to the uk (only took a week - no customs). The only thing it will do usefullyish is the air suspension. It also reads and clears codes. The GAP iiD is so much more capable and I deeply regret not paying the extra. I had an injector problem that I had to diagnose using INPA (bmw software that I already had). Even with the air suspension, the figures generated by ALL Comms are meaningless - where as I believe GAP will give sensor voltages etc. Unfortunately I dont have the budget for the GAP as well, so Im making do with INPA for most things. You just need to be a bit tech savvy for it. My INPA software and lead was for our 2004 bmw e53 x5 and cost around £20. That will cover engine, air suspension and a few other shared components. Hope that helps!
 
ProjectTruck said:
As someone who has been restoring a l322 2003 td6, I plumbed for the ALL Comms as the car was bought with an air suspension fault. I truly wish I hadn't. The tool was £230 delivered to the uk (only took a week - no customs). The only thing it will do usefullyish is the air suspension. It also reads and clears codes. The GAP iiD is so much more capable and I deeply regret not paying the extra. I had an injector problem that I had to diagnose using INPA (bmw software that I already had). Even with the air suspension, the figures generated by ALL Comms are meaningless - where as I believe GAP will give sensor voltages etc. Unfortunately I dont have the budget for the GAP as well, so Im making do with INPA for most things. You just need to be a bit tech savvy for it. My INPA software and lead was for our 2004 bmw e53 x5 and cost around £20. That will cover engine, air suspension and a few other shared components. Hope that helps!
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Just to add - INPA has from memory 8-10 pages of live engine data for the td6 (m57 I think - again from memory!). I'm writing this bored as I wait for the AA to collect me as my gearbox/torque converter has just failed!).
 
Don't touch Lynx
Hawkeye is OK as an option, and worth the money, if you have a lot of different Land Rover models and years in your ownership.

Gap iiD by far the best of the other options but like Nanocom vin locked so on all but two vehicles I muddle by with a combination of Hawkeye and the various RSW tools for calibrating EAS.
 
Nanocom isn't vin locked, just need 3 different modules for the 3 engine combinations on the p38.
GAP IID is vín locked.
 
Wazzajnr said:
Nanocom isn't vin locked, just need 3 different modules for the 3 engine combinations on the p38.
GAP IID is vín locked.
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Sorry that's the problem with it I meant. To be fair for most people who might upgrade their Land Rover every couple of years £60 isn't too bad on Gap iiD.
If you've got six different vehicles it's still getting neare £1k, with each vehicle, including the original unit purchase for Gap iiD which is more than I'm willing to sink in for diagnostics I may never need and I think I worked out the equivalent coverage on my vehicles with Nanocom was a lot more although in fairness Gap iiD has no earlier vehicle coverage
 
it was annoying for me. as I have a faultmate msv2 extreme for my P38 BBS wanted 700 to add the L322 to it. near double what the IID tool cost me
 
ukadamwest said:
it was annoying for me. as I have a faultmate msv2 extreme for my P38 BBS wanted 700 to add the L322 to it. near double what the IID tool cost me
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I don't rate Lynx really in any case but I emailed and asked if I upgraded to Evo for the LR3 and returned my original Lynx unit for the P38 would they add the P38 upgrade pack to the Evo and they refused which seemed a very poor attitude to customers who've previously invested in a system they've decided to abandon so I said no thanks what happens when I want to add a newer vehicle model to Evo and you've upgraded again and I have to re-buy all over again.
Cost them a hell of a lot though, well over £10k in parts sales as I've basically avoided Britpart products wherever possible since and continue to never recommend Lynx - technical support from some bloke at Continental in Devizes was pathetically weak and uninterested too.
 
ProjectTruck said:
Just to add - INPA has from memory 8-10 pages of live engine data for the td6 (m57 I think - again from memory!). I'm writing this bored as I wait for the AA to collect me as my gearbox/torque converter has just failed!).
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Heres some pages from INPA on the M57 from my 530d...

 
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