Hey forum,
Now before you just comment "This is a Land Rover forum, of course the Defender!", hear me out, because i really need the best decision.
Coming from a family that has mostly owned land rovers (2x defender 110, one being heavily off road modified and now in south africa on safaris, 1x freelander 2, 1x discovery 4 [2014] + 2x 2008 range rover sport) or course - i will be getting one as a first car.
Having driven land - and range rovers from the age of 9 up until now, i know how to drive both pretty well.
I also have loads of experience working on cars, so doing an oil change or swapping the waterpump is no problem for me.
I will now be giving the info that will be able to help you decide what would be best for me - because i really am not sure.
Price:
upkeep kosts (fuel (no matter how much) and taxes + insurance) are not my problem, job and parents pay that.
I have around 15k (€) and the financial capitol to keep both of these running for a number of years. Money is NO problem for me but i would like to stay under 15 grand (buying price).
A fully equipped 2008 Range Rover with 180k KMs (highway) on the clock is around 13500 €, probably around 12800 as the prices are negotiable with most.I would be most interested in the ones with around 200 HP, as i think more is pretty useless (although the disco 4 has 252 and thats real fun) of course, tax, insurance and fuel (preferred a diesel model) would be more than a defender 110.
A decent condition 1999 td5 Defender 110 (no good condition 90s for sale in my whole country atm, but a 110 is great aswell) with little rust and around 250k Kms (also highway) is around 15000€. Of course, you dont get the "luxery" of a range rover but you do get better fuel economy and lower taxes/insurance. Although i have to say, i feel like the defender would lack a bit of power when pulling a trailer (just from my experience driving them). Service costs would be lower aswell because i can change 80% of the car myself if needed, but i do find in colder weather like the -5 to -20 in the winter here could bring some problems.
no matter what i would be buying, i would make sure either one has had the correct sercive intervals and has been taken car of well (eg new parts, regular fluid changes - you get what i mean)
I would mostly be doing europe wide trips with my boattrailer (only 750kg no more) - so mostly highway. From cold Russia in november all the way to 40°c hot greece in summer, which makes me think the defender is not the best in cold weather - although i always let the car run warm for 5-10 minutes in the winter, no matter defender or rangy.
Also because of this i would think a range rover being better, as it is more comfortable for long rides (although itll probably use more fuel) and better in the cold in my experience.
it doesnt matter if i would have a crash in the rangy or a defender - they would both be insured that the insurance company doesnt help me out (saves me money though).
which is safer, defender or a rangy?
if you need anymore infos, just reply with what you need.
cheers and have a good day.
Now before you just comment "This is a Land Rover forum, of course the Defender!", hear me out, because i really need the best decision.
Coming from a family that has mostly owned land rovers (2x defender 110, one being heavily off road modified and now in south africa on safaris, 1x freelander 2, 1x discovery 4 [2014] + 2x 2008 range rover sport) or course - i will be getting one as a first car.
Having driven land - and range rovers from the age of 9 up until now, i know how to drive both pretty well.
I also have loads of experience working on cars, so doing an oil change or swapping the waterpump is no problem for me.
I will now be giving the info that will be able to help you decide what would be best for me - because i really am not sure.
Price:
upkeep kosts (fuel (no matter how much) and taxes + insurance) are not my problem, job and parents pay that.
I have around 15k (€) and the financial capitol to keep both of these running for a number of years. Money is NO problem for me but i would like to stay under 15 grand (buying price).
A fully equipped 2008 Range Rover with 180k KMs (highway) on the clock is around 13500 €, probably around 12800 as the prices are negotiable with most.I would be most interested in the ones with around 200 HP, as i think more is pretty useless (although the disco 4 has 252 and thats real fun) of course, tax, insurance and fuel (preferred a diesel model) would be more than a defender 110.
A decent condition 1999 td5 Defender 110 (no good condition 90s for sale in my whole country atm, but a 110 is great aswell) with little rust and around 250k Kms (also highway) is around 15000€. Of course, you dont get the "luxery" of a range rover but you do get better fuel economy and lower taxes/insurance. Although i have to say, i feel like the defender would lack a bit of power when pulling a trailer (just from my experience driving them). Service costs would be lower aswell because i can change 80% of the car myself if needed, but i do find in colder weather like the -5 to -20 in the winter here could bring some problems.
no matter what i would be buying, i would make sure either one has had the correct sercive intervals and has been taken car of well (eg new parts, regular fluid changes - you get what i mean)
I would mostly be doing europe wide trips with my boattrailer (only 750kg no more) - so mostly highway. From cold Russia in november all the way to 40°c hot greece in summer, which makes me think the defender is not the best in cold weather - although i always let the car run warm for 5-10 minutes in the winter, no matter defender or rangy.
Also because of this i would think a range rover being better, as it is more comfortable for long rides (although itll probably use more fuel) and better in the cold in my experience.
it doesnt matter if i would have a crash in the rangy or a defender - they would both be insured that the insurance company doesnt help me out (saves me money though).
which is safer, defender or a rangy?
if you need anymore infos, just reply with what you need.
cheers and have a good day.
) long drive RR, up the hill or to the beach Def90. They both have their good bits for what they do.
