Thank you for the replies, really appreciate it. I've budgeted 8-9k so hopefully will be fine.

It is actually for my girlfriend as we're just about to have a baby and she wants something to do the school run in, so predictable I know.

I thought it had the same driver visibility as when driving a tank. Though women are too busy doing their lippy and pouting in the rear view mirror to worry about silly things like that. :D
 
Urban planning is fine, 'till you need to go elsewhere, then Public Transport lets you down so regularly it's hardly worth it anymore. We live 400 yards or so from a railway station, the missus uses it every weekend to go into town for shopping, I use it 'sometimes' when i go with her or out for a pub stroll. I have never got onto a train that's either clean, on-time at both ends, or even almost comfortable.

I tried to use buses whilst the Landy is brokened, but it's quicker to wait for my son or wife to come home from work, whatever shift the lad's on, and borrow the car, for the same reasons as the trains, but also add the slaloms, road humps, potholes and unwashed public figures ....

Bloody detest Public Transport.

It might be good in London, or other major cities where there's an underground and joined together infrastructure, but you try to go, for instance, on a direct train route from our house to almost anywhere and you need three trains, usually costing a kings ransom if there's more than one traveller, whereas if we drive 5 miles into town we could get a direct train at a third the cost!! Up here and I suspect most of the country NOT in cities and you can forget planned infrastructure, they can't even get bus services to work on a decent timetable and the Northern Rail timetable is completely up the swannie and has been for months!

And don't start on the great white elephant of HS feckin' 2 fercrissakes ...

We need private transport, cars, bikes, pedal bikes, whatever ... and my Landy is staying mobile (ish) until I die and won't care anymore ... ;)

End of rant .. :)
 
Urban planning is fine, 'till you need to go elsewhere, then Public Transport lets you down so regularly it's hardly worth it anymore. We live 400 yards or so from a railway station, the missus uses it every weekend to go into town for shopping, I use it 'sometimes' when i go with her or out for a pub stroll. I have never got onto a train that's either clean, on-time at both ends, or even almost comfortable.

I tried to use buses whilst the Landy is brokened, but it's quicker to wait for my son or wife to come home from work, whatever shift the lad's on, and borrow the car, for the same reasons as the trains, but also add the slaloms, road humps, potholes and unwashed public figures ....

Bloody detest Public Transport.

It might be good in London, or other major cities where there's an underground and joined together infrastructure, but you try to go, for instance, on a direct train route from our house to almost anywhere and you need three trains, usually costing a kings ransom if there's more than one traveller, whereas if we drive 5 miles into town we could get a direct train at a third the cost!! Up here and I suspect most of the country NOT in cities and you can forget planned infrastructure, they can't even get bus services to work on a decent timetable and the Northern Rail timetable is completely up the swannie and has been for months!

And don't start on the great white elephant of HS feckin' 2 fercrissakes ...

We need private transport, cars, bikes, pedal bikes, whatever ... and my Landy is staying mobile (ish) until I die and won't care anymore ... ;)

End of rant .. :)

A very big urban rural divide with public transport at the moment. In London or Manchester there is almost no advantage to having a car, in the rural areas life is almost impossible without one.

If the planners are going to discourage car use in the rural areas, they will have to introduce a range of measures, much better bus services, cheap dial a ride systems, possibly using rural postmen as buses, which already happens in some areas, and probably re-opening of branch lines.
I imagine it is likely this will take considerably longer than the action which is happening in the cities.
 
Urban planning is fine, 'till you need to go elsewhere, then Public Transport lets you down so regularly it's hardly worth it anymore. We live 400 yards or so from a railway station, the missus uses it every weekend to go into town for shopping, I use it 'sometimes' when i go with her or out for a pub stroll. I have never got onto a train that's either clean, on-time at both ends, or even almost comfortable.

I tried to use buses whilst the Landy is brokened, but it's quicker to wait for my son or wife to come home from work, whatever shift the lad's on, and borrow the car, for the same reasons as the trains, but also add the slaloms, road humps, potholes and unwashed public figures ....

Bloody detest Public Transport.

It might be good in London, or other major cities where there's an underground and joined together infrastructure, but you try to go, for instance, on a direct train route from our house to almost anywhere and you need three trains, usually costing a kings ransom if there's more than one traveller, whereas if we drive 5 miles into town we could get a direct train at a third the cost!! Up here and I suspect most of the country NOT in cities and you can forget planned infrastructure, they can't even get bus services to work on a decent timetable and the Northern Rail timetable is completely up the swannie and has been for months!

And don't start on the great white elephant of HS feckin' 2 fercrissakes ...

We need private transport, cars, bikes, pedal bikes, whatever ... and my Landy is staying mobile (ish) until I die and won't care anymore ... ;)

End of rant .. :)

A very big urban rural divide with public transport at the moment. In London or Manchester there is almost no advantage to having a car, in the rural areas life is almost impossible without one.

If the planners are going to discourage car use in the rural areas, they will have to introduce a range of measures, much better bus services, cheap dial a ride systems, possibly using rural postmen as buses, which already happens in some areas, and probably re-opening of branch lines.
I imagine it is likely this will take considerably longer than the action which is happening in the cities.

We are the most incompetent country in the whole of Europe for our public transport and road infrastructure, it's diabolical and to say that there was some sort of "central planning" with council involvement is laughable, look at all the new builds and the transport links, all are car orientated with either no public or so sporadic it might as well not be there.
 
We are the most incompetent country in the whole of Europe for our public transport and road infrastructure, it's diabolical and to say that there was some sort of "central planning" with council involvement is laughable, look at all the new builds and the transport links, all are car orientated with either no public or so sporadic it might as well not be there.

I despair at a lot of the new builds I see. Still no attempt to build in thermally efficient shapes, and join the dwellings so they take advantage of the heat used by the others.
And many new builds don't have any solar panels, surely it has got to be cheaper to install the panels as part of the construction, rather than cut your roof about later.
 
I despair at a lot of the new builds I see. Still no attempt to build in thermally efficient shapes, and join the dwellings so they take advantage of the heat used by the others.
And many new builds don't have any solar panels, surely it has got to be cheaper to install the panels as part of the construction, rather than cut your roof about later.

With modern thermal insulation you could make detached just about as efficient as terrace (for a cost), although certainly round my way the name of the game is to squeeze as many properties on an acre so builders like Persimmon can announce their HALF A BILLION profit
I did see a small builders development in my town where the panels had actually been 'framed' into the slate (effect) roofs of the houses and it looked quite nice
The problem in the UK is there is such a desperation for property the builders can throw up any old tat as they know it will sell.
One of the biggest issues I see is the density of new developments, it's an eco disaster, causes social issues and the overbearing nature of the tall swathes of buildings built right up to the pavement is not good
 
With modern thermal insulation you could make detached just about as efficient as terrace (for a cost), although certainly round my way the name of the game is to squeeze as many properties on an acre so builders like Persimmon can announce their HALF A BILLION profit
I did see a small builders development in my town where the panels had actually been 'framed' into the slate (effect) roofs of the houses and it looked quite nice
The problem in the UK is there is such a desperation for property the builders can throw up any old tat as they know it will sell.
One of the biggest issues I see is the density of new developments, it's an eco disaster, causes social issues and the overbearing nature of the tall swathes of buildings built right up to the pavement is not good

I think the objection to high rise is a bit of a cultural thing, as much as anything else.
In a Canadian city, tall apartment buildings are considered the norm.
My grandmother lived on the 17th floor of her building in Toronto. She loved it, picking up the heat from the 16 floors below was ideal in a Canadian winter, and the view was fantastic, you could see all the way across the lake to the coast of the US.
There was also a communal gym and sauna in the basement, above the 2 levels of heated underground parking.
There weren't any social issues, the tenants had a thriving residents and community association for the building.
 
I think the objection to high rise is a bit of a cultural thing, as much as anything else.
In a Canadian city, tall apartment buildings are considered the norm.
My grandmother lived on the 17th floor of her building in Toronto. She loved it, picking up the heat from the 16 floors below was ideal in a Canadian winter, and the view was fantastic, you could see all the way across the lake to the coast of the US.
There was also a communal gym and sauna in the basement, above the 2 levels of heated underground parking.
There weren't any social issues, the tenants had a thriving residents and community association for the building.

Yes cities I think with the population pull would need to maximise their space however ironically you pass more public green areas and parks driving into central London than between here and the next town in east Berks, pretty much every available patch is being built on or has an application in.
I don't have a problem with 3 or 4 story houses necessarily, it is just you would expect the smaller footprint to give benefits in garden size but no, the house footprints are getting smaller and so are the gardens and parking (if you're lucky)
The irony is as industrial estates, shops, hotels all get turned into flats, there are fewer and fewer places to work, meaning people are having to commute more- more cars, less spaces, same roads and inadequate public transport.
New towns would be the obvious answer where infrastructure could be created for the developments, but this is less 'profitable'
 
It is actually for my girlfriend as we're just about to have a baby and she wants something to do the school run in, so predictable I know

Try getting a child into a child seat in back of an Evoke before buying one. You'll discover that you'll bang your head on the door frame, or do your back in bending low enough to get the child in without banging it.
I got a proper LR when the kids needed help to get them into child seats, simply because banging heads and bending over every time the kids go in the car got very tiresome.
 
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My 4x4 handled the recent snow perfectly, but I do have a diff lock

Last time we had any snow (ie the depth of the tyre wall) my RRC shod with AT's had no problems at all, in fact I never needed to lock the centre diff. Could have been a different story had it been really deep I guess, I've considered chains, but down here in East Anglia weather like that is too rare to warrant the cost of them.
 
I agree with most comments on here regarding new build houses and the lack of thought that goes into it. Delveopers squeezing in as many houses as possible, no room to park more then 2 cars and no privacy.

Slightly going off the subject, another issue we get around here is city people moving from London and other areas down south, Escape to the Country sure has a lot to answer for. They seem a bit taken a back when you tell them there are no busses, the nearest shop is 4 miles away and closes at 4.30, some complain the winters are cold and the fields smell in the Autumn. I say yeh its the countryside what did you expect. The issue is with the lack of services these people (mainly 50+) fell isolated when they get older, especially if they can no longer drive.
 

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